You're killing me. I'm out of money and space. If it'd been 2 months ago, I'd have jumped on the group of Veraderos. But, I bought a group of variabilis and two different sexed pumilio trios since September, so I'm broke. And, with 10 vivs in a house with no frog room, I just can't ask my incredibly tolerant better half to move any more of her stuff for another one.