Hi, I'm John Schwirtz, I live in Kalamazoo, Michigan. I was born in Miami, Florida and have 5 brothers; Robert, John, Chris, ted, Philip, and Jack. I have been interested in rare herpetoligical hybrids for 20 years. Currently I have a O.PumilioXR.fantastica breeding project, and a PacmanXbull frog project. For the PumXfants, I have 20 frogs in a 2X 40 gallon vertical paludarium. and the PacXbull projects, is 2 Male pacmans, 3 male bulls, 4 female pacmans, and 3 female bulls. the pacXbulls are in 20 g highs with 1/3 water. the males and females of the same species of each project are with the opposite gender in another cage. So far, I have had pacXbull hybrids and 3 pumXfant hybrids morph out and breed. I hope to help anyone I can with their frogs.





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If you make your cross with a male tinctorius and a female ornata make sure you cut a large enough hole for the female ornata to get into the coco hut with the male tinctorius. You usually have to split that old coco hut right in half. Of course you can save yourself the trouble by using a male ornata and a female tinctorius. It is quite a sight to see a female tinctorius hopping around stroking the back of a male ornata, but then it is also quite a sight to find 5000 eggs under a coco hut.
