Quote Originally Posted by poison beauties View Post
Like Tony said, who are the most respected in our hobby? Its not the pacman crowd or the the ones who are mixing species or supporting it. Its us because we do the work. You are looking at this the wrong way. We are not trying to rule the hobby, We are trying to help it advance for all of us. We do the research, we do the bulk of the testing and advance the husbandry for captive breeding. We only want to help the other amphibians in the same way.
I get it, it's not that your trying to "rule" the rest of the hobby, it is just that the rest of the hobby is so stupid and unlearned that your doing this all for our good. We should be so ashamed for disagreeing with the the brilliant, hard working dart froggers who have come to giude us out of darkness into enlightenment. Forgive us.


And another stupid thing I hear is none of the frogs here will be used for reintroduction. Do you know why? Because more of you than not dont practice proper captive breeding practices in order to even pull it off. Do you think that the zoos and institutions can honestly cover the needs for an repopulation project? They cant and we will not ever be considered for doing our part if the hobby is divided on the simple issues. Simply put if and when there is ever a plan to start reintroducing species you will not have a clue in hell as to what it takes as you guys dont know **** about locales, line info and other little things like quarentine, testing and even how to keep your offspring and breeders tracked in order to continue unrelated lines for the benefit of their future. Do you know anything about acclimating frogs in the wild before they are released? How about setting up a proper diet and a variety that only dart froggers seem to practice? If you did know would you practice it as many of these species are on the verge of and will disapear from the wild in time. Without the help of a dedicated hobby the reintroduction projects will fail and wont be able to produce what we can. It seems to me you guys need more Dart Froggers on the boards helping to share knowledge that will better the hobby.
I hate to break it to you but the dart frog hobbys frogs are not going to be used for reintroductions either unless "maybe" and this is a big maybe, the species in question is totally extict in the wild. It is a dream, but a highly unrealistic one.

If you have been a paet of the herp hobby for as long as I have youve seen the changes and you know where its going wrong.
I have been following the hobby since the early 90's. It has changed sure, going wrong tends to be a matter of perspective. If your talking about high priced morphs and such, eventually it will balance out, it always does.



I know to keep them cool and as for the other needs I know them as well, Remember Im a Dart Frogger, we do our research! And new breeding and husbandry techniques are due as they have not been successfully captive bred here and what I have in the works in a group effort project on them and will be for the others to come. Im personally starting with twenty of them in a custom 8'x4'x24 inch viv with a few new advancments. Nice slow moving current and flood setup. I will be sharing it in time/

Michael
You know the attitude and level of arrogance you and a lot of dart froggers like you have almost makes me hope your project flops. However I would like to see more such species established so I wish you success even though success would most likely just add another level of silly arrogance to your attitude.