Hello from Atlanta GA

[poison beauties]

So you support Hybrid creation Tony? Greed has no place in this hobby where we need to do more to help out the conservation projects and keep lines and site data availible for better tracking. I personally think people who do this are idiots. you hybridize cittters and I will mix words.,,,,Dont be a Hybridiot!

Michael

[Tony]

I think I have already made my stance on hybrids quite clear, just take a trip on over to the pacman section.

[poison beauties]

Just read it. Well said and I think a full out Why Hybrids are idiotic thread is due. There is no need for them. If you cant find a natural frog that you like your in the wrong hobby because next to fish we have the largest selection. If you can keep two species Im sure you can keep a third or even just pair them up with the smae species. Nothing beats Natural Beauty,.

Michael

[boabab95]

Just read it. Well said and I think a full out Why Hybrids are idiotic thread is due. There is no need for them. If you cant find a natural frog that you like your in the wrong hobby because next to fish we have the largest selection. If you can keep two species Im sure you can keep a third or even just pair them up with the smae species. Nothing beats Natural Beauty,.

Agreed mike, nothing beats Natural. hybrids are just a way to make $$$ IMO.

[SethD]

So all of you new guys come over here to stir the pot about hybrids? If you want a squabble there is always dendroboard.

[poison beauties]

Im well known on DB and I debate these issues often there. If its ok to talk hybridization here why cant I speak out against it? If you have not noticed since Ive seen you on DB that our hobby has taken a turn for the worse due to stuff like this. Selective breeding and Hybridization have been debated for a long time and are still considered to be ok or even a good thing by many yet site data and quarentine testing and treatment which I have practiced for many years are not even known by many in the herp hobby. Why is that? They are clearly the most important of the 4 and yet what wins out? Greed does. The want to create something unnatural in order to make a quick buck before the fad dies or the market floods. Them what happens? The hybrids become 20 dollar throw away frogs as people refer to many other cheap frogs as and they mix something else. Like I said a few of you know me and know I have a good rep in the hobby with many references. If I was out to stir the pot I could and would. Im just fed up with seeing this hobby turn into the next joke. Look at pythons and geckos. Why go there? Amphibians are one of the first things to disapear the wild when things happen. I think a natural representation is all we need. There is nothing more beautifull. But if you want to go to DB and argue we can..... I will have the upper ground there.

Michael

[boabab95]

Well said mike. And very true.

[SethD]

Im well known on DB and I debate these issues often there. If its ok to talk hybridization here why cant I speak out against it? If you have not noticed since Ive seen you on DB that our hobby has taken a turn for the worse due to stuff like this. Selective breeding and Hybridization have been debated for a long time and are still considered to be ok or even a good thing by many yet site data and quarentine testing and treatment which I have practiced for many years are not even known by many in the herp hobby. Why is that? They are clearly the most important of the 4 and yet what wins out? Greed does. The want to create something unnatural in order to make a quick buck before the fad dies or the market floods. Them what happens? The hybrids become 20 dollar throw away frogs as people refer to many other cheap frogs as and they mix something else. Like I said a few of you know me and know I have a good rep in the hobby with many references. If I was out to stir the pot I could and would. Im just fed up with seeing this hobby turn into the next joke. Look at pythons and geckos. Why go there? Amphibians are one of the first things to disapear the wild when things happen. I think a natural representation is all we need. There is nothing more beautifull.

Well it is just a little humorous that five or six people from dendroboard that never posted over here before come over to post against hybrids after tony's little lecture against horned frog hybrids in the "pacman" section the other day. "Maybe" it is just chance and tony didn't have some kind of a hand in this, who knows, but it sure does look like somebody went and recruited some dendroboard buddies to back him up either directly or indirectly. Your fear of a $20 "throw away frog" doesn't make much sense either since there are a great many "pure" frogs for under twenty dollars and some are even CB.

But if you want to go to DB and argue we can..... I will have the upper ground there.

No kidding. I think one would be stoned there if one suggested that there was a place for hybrids in the hobby and no matter if one personally liked them or not, they weren't the end of the world. It is far more fashionable to rail against it. I tell you I sure wish dendroboarders would put half the energy into apposing the addition of amphibians as "injurious animals" under the lacy act unless "certified" chytrid free that they do into apposing hybrids. That is an issue that could potentially cause far greater harm to the hobby than hybrids ever will.

[bshmerlie]

But if you want to go to DB and argue we can..... I will have the upper ground there.

Michael

Why does it seem like we're being invaded by DB members looking to argue? Reminds me of Jerry Springer, people just looking for trash talk.

[Kurt]

So you support Hybrid creation Tony? Greed has no place in this hobby where we need to do more to help out the conservation projects and keep lines and site data availible for better tracking. I personally think people who do this are idiots. you hybridize cittters and I will mix words.,,,,Dont be a Hybridiot!

Michael

Welcome aboard. Nice to somebody else feels the same way. I prefer things the way mother nature makes them. I can't stand hybrids and man-made morphs. It seems the snake breeders are the ones doing this most often. I don't need or want the latest man-morph/hybrid some ambitious breeder produced.

[EpicFrogMan]

O wow looks like i found the thread of self proclaimed know it alls.

P.S. HYBRIDS FOR LIFE

[Tony]

O wow looks like i found the thread of self proclaimed know it alls.

P.S. HYBRIDS FOR LIFE

[SethD]

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For every napoleon there is an iron duke. But who cares? Life goes on.

[John]

I could have sworn we had an age requirement of 13 or older on this site. Looks like it's not working.

[SethD]

I could have sworn we had an age requirement of 13 or older on this site. Looks like it's not working.

Don't you appreciated art John? Everyone, group laugh show the the mods/admins it isn't to serious. If someone can't do that much they need to stop taking themselves so seriously, I chuckled at the napoleon pic.