Quote Originally Posted by SethD View Post
Yes, I know it. I argue for them not so much out of personal interest in them(never actually bought or had a hybrid frog) but because I think a lot of froggers get so stuck in group thought that they don't think for themselves. This limits innovation in anything not approved by the group. I have seen a lot of smart people that could have done a lot for the hobby be shot down by group thought. Instead they became pretty much like everybody else. This group mentality constricts the hobby a great deal. Everyone wants to be well thought of, and nobody want to contradict conventional wisdom even if conventional wisdom is based on emotion instead of fact. Now I don't think conventional wisdom should be thrown out just because it is conventional, but it should be examined to see if it really makes sense or not. If that sort of thinking bothers people, that is unfortunate, but the hobby advances only slowly without it.



Frankly my rep among your dendroboard buddies is no great concern of mine. I only have a few friends there anyway and I doubt they would have a fit since they tend to be reasonable people. Probably 80% of my frogs are wild caught too since I enjoy working with species either uncommonly or never bred before in the hobby so you or your buddies not selling me frogs wouldn't bug me much either. If someone is such a snob that they would refuse to do business with or would look down on someone who produced hybrids to make a point and labeled them as such they are probably not the sort of person I would get along with anyway in the long term. I encourage people to experiment and try things for themselves, within reason of course.



Lol, one thing I don't much care for is threats. I was half joking but I can probably be pushed into actually doing it. I vist dendroboard because there are some good guys there, but there are also a lot of people that act like lemmings unfortunately.

First off I threatened noone and secondly if you think there are that many people over there that would be ok with you producing or working with hybrids you really not in touch with the dart frog hobby or not near as in touch with it as I am. creating hybrids is breaking one of the golden rules as there is much more work going on with darts as far as locale, import and line data than any other frogs you work with. The darts are a beautifull natural representation of whats out there and many want it to stay that way.

And as for only wanting to work with rare or unbred captive frogs thats fine and many need to be bred here to decrease the demand for importing. I have worked with a few of the hardest to breed and keep thriving species and some were before these boards were even up and running. Im also collecting a few species from madagascar to take on that have never been successfully bred in captivity. That still does not take away from the hybrid issues,

Michael