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    Hi, I'm John Schwirtz, I live in Kalamazoo, Michigan. I was born in Miami, Florida and have 5 brothers; Robert, John, Chris, ted, Philip, and Jack. I have been interested in rare herpetoligical hybrids for 20 years. Currently I have a O.PumilioXR.fantastica breeding project, and a PacmanXbull frog project. For the PumXfants, I have 20 frogs in a 2X 40 gallon vertical paludarium. and the PacXbull projects, is 2 Male pacmans, 3 male bulls, 4 female pacmans, and 3 female bulls. the pacXbulls are in 20 g highs with 1/3 water. the males and females of the same species of each project are with the opposite gender in another cage. So far, I have had pacXbull hybrids and 3 pumXfant hybrids morph out and breed. I hope to help anyone I can with their frogs.

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    Welcome.

    Good luck on the Pacbulls. They're pretty far apart on the on the family tree. Might make for an interesting mix though, Pacman body and mouth with bullfrog legs. There might be a market for those alongside the chickens they raise for meat. Frogs that can eat their own weight in food in a day, grow fast and have huge legs.

    On the others, would the babies be called pumfants?
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    I know someone who is crossing a Bulldog with a Shiz Tzu. They're calling the cross breed a Bullshizt.
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    Welcome to the Frog Forum, John!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalamazoo View Post
    Hi, I'm John Schwirtz, I live in Kalamazoo, Michigan. I was born in Miami, Florida and have 5 brothers; Robert, John, Chris, ted, Philip, and Jack. I have been interested in rare herpetoligical hybrids for 20 years. Currently I have a O.PumilioXR.fantastica breeding project, and a PacmanXbull frog project. For the PumXfants, I have 20 frogs in a 2X 40 gallon vertical paludarium. and the PacXbull projects, is 2 Male pacmans, 3 male bulls, 4 female pacmans, and 3 female bulls. the pacXbulls are in 20 g highs with 1/3 water. the males and females of the same species of each project are with the opposite gender in another cage. So far, I have had pacXbull hybrids and 3 pumXfant hybrids morph out and breed. I hope to help anyone I can with their frogs.

    May I suggest your next cross be Dendrobates tinctorius x ceratophrys ornata. That is a stunning cross. If you make your cross with a male tinctorius and a female ornata make sure you cut a large enough hole for the female ornata to get into the coco hut with the male tinctorius. You usually have to split that old coco hut right in half. Of course you can save yourself the trouble by using a male ornata and a female tinctorius. It is quite a sight to see a female tinctorius hopping around stroking the back of a male ornata, but then it is also quite a sight to find 5000 eggs under a coco hut.

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    On the others, would the babies be called pumfants?
    Hi JimO, As of right now they are called Fantastipums...





    I may stop the pacmanX bullfrog project, and move on to something more practical. Maybe auratusXtinctorius? ooh or TincXleuc??? not sure yet, depends on what colours I like.

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    I would love to see photos of both the Pumispasms and the Pacobulls...
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    Nah, I'd stick with the Pac-o-bull since there are plenty of auratotincs and tincoleucorius floating around in the pets shops and zoo reptile houses. You couldn't make much money with them.
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    I may stop the pacmanX bullfrog project, and move on to something more practical. Maybe auratusXtinctorius? ooh or TincXleuc??? not sure yet, depends on what colours I like.
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