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    Jace
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    Default Western Toad update.

    So, I have had Enoch for almost 2 months now and took some recent pictures to see if there has been any growth-besides width! It does look like he or she is bigger, but I honestly expected more size increase considering the daily feedings. Do toadlets normally take so long to grow, or is Enoch not getting something needed? Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated. (The first photo was from August; next two were taken today)
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    SethD
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    It does seem like he should have grown more than that in two months, but I wouldn't worry much about it as long as he keeps growing and has a good appetite. BTW I like that nice green color.

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    Paul Rust
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    Jo, look at the two pictures with the coin a bit more objectively. He has grown quite a lot and about what I would expect. He does look very healthy.

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    Kevin1
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    Judging by his color, looks like you have the Boreal subspecies. I used to keep (and produce) the other subspecies Halophilus. How long have you had this little guy?

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    Jace
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    Default Re: Western Toad update.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin1 View Post
    Judging by his color, looks like you have the Boreal subspecies. I used to keep (and produce) the other subspecies Halophilus. How long have you had this little guy?
    Sorry, Kevin, but what do you mean by Boreal subspecies? And how would you be able to tell? I have had Enoch since August 27. No idea whether it is a boy or a girl, but with a name like Enoch, I naturally just call it a he. Does he look healthy and growing to you? Thanks for any info.

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    Kevin1
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    Default Re: Western Toad update.

    The western toad comes in two subspecies. Bufo Boreas Boreas and Bufo Boreas Halophilus.The B.b. Halophilus ranges mostly in california and parts of nevada. While B. b. Boreas ranges in california and farther north. The California toad(B.b.h.) has more red to it than the Boreal toad(B.b.b.) particularly on the "warts". From my experience in raising hundreds of these guys, I'd say your frog seems a bit small to me. Like Seth said though as long as he's eating and growing he should be ok. He's looks healthy for what it's worth. Do you give him supplements?(calcium vitamins)

    Here's a pic of 2 breeding pairs and some eggs of the other subspecies. enjoy


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    Jace
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    Default Re: Western Toad update.

    Okay. I just read on the Forum from other threads that toads in general usually have fairly rapid growth spurts so I was expecting bigger, sooner. But he eats whatever is dropped into his home, is active, likes to skinny dip, and is nicely plump.

    Thanks, Seth. Most pictures I have seen of Western Toads show them to be mostly brown, so I have quite the colouring on Enoch. I hope he keeps the different shades the older he gets.

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