Earlier today, I asked you all to be civil, and rather politely I might add. Then the inappropriate language came out and a few people violated our terms of service. This has forced me to close the thread, delete many messages, and hand out some infractions. If you can't have a constructive conversation (or constructive debate), then please don't post here. It's rather saddening when obviously intelligent and experienced people can't talk about a topic without degenerating into mud slinging and name calling. You are all better than that.