Keeping multiple occupants in 1 house?

[vince]

Since I started keeping some frogs as pets, I've gotten many people interested in them. A question thats popped up a couple of times has been about keeping different species of phibs and reps together. I staight up, today as a matter of fact, told my sister " uhh i dunno:" So, I'm asking you guys. Is 1 say 20 gallon terrarium large enough and is it safe to house a leapord gecko with a dumpy frog? (that was just an example question) I wasn't sure if maybe some bacteria from a gecko might affect the frog or maybe they're just sworn mortal enimies the kill on sight lol. Why I'm asking. Is there a list of compatible frogs and or other creatures?

This is an example of what worked for me Japanese tree-frogs Italian Crested newts and four Slow -worms . Whites Tree-frog Barking Tree-frog Tomato Frog this set up lasted for two years before the Barking and Tomato died [these were bought as adults and I had kept them in different set up for a number of years previously] and finally my clawed frogs and sharp ribbed newts . If things live in a similar environment then you may be lucky but leopard geckoes need a dry environment compared to a frog . Remember everything eats something, small anolis in a rain forest type set up with Greys and American green's may work as an example but they need plenty space tree-frogs mixed with ground dwelling toads gives you an opportunity.Dont put a water dish in but spray regularly I also kept Green Igs with Cane toads for years with no problems ,and Golden Tegus with Cane toads but they come from the same area so you have a fighting chance .European Green toads with Green Iguanas worked very well. BOMBINAS DONT MIX ,and Cane toads should not be kept with any other amphibian as they poison them. If you are just starting to keep amphibs then just keep them separate till you get a lot of experience

[vince]

For more examples a guy named Philippe De Vosjoli he's kept one or two frogs in his time, in his book popular amphibians, he gives various examples of what he has found to be successful a recommended read for anyone keeping amphibians

[JeffX]

You really don't want to mix at all. Yes it can be done, but the real question is it should be done, and always will be no.

[JimO]

I'll have to say no as well. Even experienced frog keepers disagree on whether or not this is a good idea and the species that would be compatible are very limited.

[John]

I won't say never, but as far as most frogs go, it's not generally not a good idea to mix species.

[Tony]

I won't say never, but as far as most frogs go, it's not generally not a good idea to mix species.

Agreed. It can be done if you are familiar enough with the species involved and know how to design a vivarium to meet all of their needs, but if you have to ask then you aren't there yet.

[vince]

Agreed. It can be done if you are familiar enough with the species involved and know how to design a vivarium to meet all of their needs, but if you have to ask then you aren't there yet.

You can't beat asking for opinions and suggestions, that's how we learn . Nobody was born an expert in frog keeping you learn by your mistakes and from other people .That is what being part of a forum is about. Please remember the bad old days before computers, ringing your local, or not so local zoo up for ideas.Look how much we have come on breeding reptiles and amphibians .My son on the Caudata forum recieved a lot of flack from the so called experts saying he didn't have a clue how to keep his axys though he had the courage to ask for opinions . I told him to take no notice of the flack, opinions are like bums we all have one. Last week they spawned they started to hatch today he has learnt from the experience and by dealing with people giving him suggestions.

[vince]

I'll have to say no as well. Even experienced frog keepers disagree on whether or not this is a good idea and the species that would be compatible are very limited.

Yes I agree but some times you have a big viv with a group of something that stays up in the branches and the floor space that is never touched . I found 1 frog species i newt/salamander and 1 lizard worked well for me. The only loss was when a slow worm decided to get out and say hello to my tiger salamander. Yum yum! but that was an accident you have to use common sense.

[JimO]

Well, in all fairness and not to be a hypocrite, I have an Exo-terra that my son has used to keep treefrogs and other small species of frogs and toads. He usually catches a half dozen in the spring and releases them at the end of the summer. We also have a baby snapping turtle in there. Occasionally a small frog will go missing and I've been more careful not to allow him to put what would essentially be feeder frogs in there. We have a very large green treefrog female in there with the turtle and she would gobble down a smaller treefrog in a heartbeat. I'm sure the turtle would be happy to eat froglegs for dinner as well. But, the water pool has limited access and they have been together for over a year.

Anyway, there you have it. I have a mixed tank! There, I said it. Admission is the first step to recovery. Although I never mix my dart frogs with each other or with other animals. They are so cool and easy to watch that I really don't need any other animals in with them. Also, some of them cost me an arm and a leg, so I wouldn't take the risk. But, all four of my boys have learned a lot by having a terrarium set up ready for whatever they find in the mud. They've raised tadpoles and released the toadlets, learned that toad tadpoles are largely prey items (after watching in shock as a dragon fly larvae grabbed one of their tads - he was promptly removed), among many other things. So, the morale of the story is listen to everybody's opinions and then make an informed decision.

If you;re talking about putting a small toad in with a brown anole for your son or daughter, then by all means go for it. But, if you're considering mixing exotic, rare, or expensive animals, there is a risk that you could lose them.

Yes I agree but some times you have a big viv with a group of something that stays up in the branches and the floor space that is never touched . I found 1 frog species i newt/salamander and 1 lizard worked well for me. The only loss was when a slow worm decided to get out and say hello to my tiger salamander. Yum yum! but that was an accident you have to use common sense.

[vince]

Yes an admission I'm not talking about mixing Darts or Mantellas but a small group of tree-frogs with a small group of newts and a few small lizards worked well for me for over two years and I still keep the newts and lizards together even now, it adds interest to a large viv providing they don't compete for food and don't bully go for it. For example my newts ate maggots but wouldn't touch flies they turned into but my tree-frogs loved them.

[Julia]

If you;re talking about putting a small toad in with a brown anole for your son or daughter, then by all means go for it. But, if you're considering mixing exotic, rare, or expensive animals, there is a risk that you could lose them.

So it's okay in your opinion to mix "cheap" animals? All animals are living things. Even if it is your kids terrarium its still your responsibility as the parent to make sure the animals are well taken care of. If you have the knowledge and experience and know that it is wrong, then why would you STILL do it?

I am a HUGE NO for mixing species. Its not necessary.