We had tried to get his arm out with out killing the snail, but after ten minutes of trying to "crowbar" the trapdoor open, I got some pliers and we sacrificed the snail. That was an ordeal also, we had to keep tearing off tiny pieces so that no jagged pieces tore Louie's arm....then once the shell was lifted away we noticed his arm was twisted INTO the snail where it had retracted itself....so we then had to maneuver his arm out of that!


in the end, Frog Free....Snail Torn Apart.


By this morning he is definitely moving his shoulder, but barely moving the rest of his arm....his fingers stay in a almost clamped position. he has started to shed that arm....but instead of eating the skin like he normally does, he is just letting it hang there. ?

he is eating his worms well and I have raised the water to two inches and he seems to be ok with that....I am still concerned about his arm poor thing