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[wesleybrouwer]

Just to clarify..are you saying not to use rainwater? And to whom was the question intented for? I wasn't sure about the rain water and am curious.
I myself use my tap water, but it's from a well from springs and it's very clean around here, little or no polution and full of natural minerals. There are very strict laws in the area and we are not allowed to use anything with gas or oil on the lake at all and toxic spills of any kind are taken very seriously.

Hi, the question was intended for Crystal.
Rainwater is mostly fine, when you filter out the pieces of leaves and stuff that regularly comes with it.
Sometimes in dense areas i would be carefull using it after a period of dright,
i believe it also takes all kind of floating pieces with it that are out in the air,
like exhausting gasses.

I was talking about purified water.
Like in osmose or distilled water.
This will cause a reverse osmose effect between water inside you're frog and the water he sits in.
I posted it somewhere on a topic that is about the differences in water.

[wesleybrouwer]

@Charlamandra

What seth means is that every frog have some parasites and worms,
some of them are actually quit good for them,
just as we have good and bad bacterias.

WC frogs ALWAYS are infested with them while CB will have far less.
By putting a WC with a CB you give the oppurtunity to pass on some of the stuff from nature into your "clean"environment.

Another big problem can be between 2 WC species from a different place.
A frog from America may be resistant to types of diseases since evolutionary they geneticaly build up resistance.
Adding for example an Asian frog to it,
you bring in stuff they are not resistant to since it is unknown for their biology,
same goes with the Asian frog that will be prone to catch a typical American disease.

Besides those problems,
any stress will put down the defence mechanism of you're frog,
the parasites and/or worms will boom since the body isn't able to fight it.
Number one cause will be stress, this will weaken any frog significantly.
Adding another frog and even handling them, especially WC, will stress them out and weaken them a lot.
Therefore the parasite or whatever will be able to take control and make you;re frog sick
wich worsens the stress and make it sicker, most people will then get the frog extra attention by picking it up and stressing it even more.

In the end, dead is the result of it.

Best way to deal is,
let the frog be and try to collect feces for examination,
If it soes not poo you can get him/here out of the tank by using gloves
and put it in a little bowl of luke water.
After 5-10 minutes get it out and put the frog in a small enclosure with some kitchen towel or little moist cottonwool.
Most of the time the frog will get something out for you

Then let it examin by microscope as soon as possible to check what is wrong with the frog.
By doing this in time, the vet can often tell you what is wrong and give you a treatment.
Most chance that the frog will make it that way.

Sidenote to that is, i think a frog shoul never be sold sick already.
Before buying it, check for any signs of a disease if possible.
A sick frog can be recognized quit well.
When you got doubts, just don't buy it out of compassion.
A waste of money and the frog will die anyways.

[charlamanda]

What seth means is that every frog have some parasites and worms,
some of them are actually quit good for them,
just as we have good and bad bacterias.
***Very interesting, I didn't realize that frogs normally have parasites that are helpful.

WC frogs ALWAYS are infested with them while CB will have far less.
By putting a WC with a CB you give the oppurtunity to pass on some of the stuff from nature into your "clean"environment.
***This makes a lot on sense, since CB's aren't subjected to the same enviroments the WC are and therefore don't have the natural resistance.

Another big problem can be between 2 WC species from a different place.
A frog from America may be resistant to types of diseases since evolutionary they geneticaly build up resistance.
Adding for example an Asian frog to it,
you bring in stuff they are not resistant to since it is unknown for their biology,
same goes with the Asian frog that will be prone to catch a typical American disease.
****Kind of like the native americans and small pox and Mexican's, and other countries like India, were drinking the for us is.....a pooping experience!LOL Good ole Montezuma's revenge!LOL

[charlamanda]

Hi, the question was intended for Crystal.
Rainwater is mostly fine, when you filter out the pieces of leaves and stuff that regularly comes with it.
Sometimes in dense areas i would be carefull using it after a period of dright,
i believe it also takes all kind of floating pieces with it that are out in the air,
like exhausting gasses.

I was talking about purified water.
Like in osmose or distilled water.
This will cause a reverse osmose effect between water inside you're frog and the water he sits in.
I posted it somewhere on a topic that is about the differences in water.

Thanks for clarifying. I would use a bucket that was cleaned, covered with a mess netting and not under any trees or gutter run off from the house.