When I went to the local petstore today to get the crickets, I saw a green baby pacman frog, and according to the owner it is an Ornate, not Carnwell. I didn't put too much mind into it because I can't tell the difference. But after I came across an older post by John Clare, I've decide to drive back to the store and take a good second look, I hope it goes well because if it is a true Ornate, I will take that in a heart beat!! Wish me luck guys, I will post pictures if I got him tonight!!!