Finally got some pixies

[John911]

Picked up a pair from joshs frogs today at a local show. Can't believe how small these things are.



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[willtilian]

nice feed thos eonce a day for a year theyll be 10 inches before you know it

[EpicFrogMan]

nice feed thos eonce a day for a year theyll be 10 inches before you know it

Hell be lucky if one of those are a male. Most juveniles turn out to be females from my experience.

I like females more anyways they have a more agressive personality usually and are more eager to eat anything that drops in the cage.

[pixiefrogman]

Hell be lucky if one of those are a male. Most juveniles turn out to be females from my experience.

I like females more anyways they have a more agressive personality usually and are more eager to eat anything that drops in the cage.

LOL, way to be optimistic!

[John911]

So I should have picked the ones that were the least active? Lol.

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[Jeff Kennedy]

John you'll be fine. The information that I have received (from a very, VERY reliable source) are that Pyxie's are heavy on the male side. We are one month in to our study and going by the shape of their heads, it looks like we have more males then females. This isn't an exact science and we know that it is too early to say 100% but based on appetite, size and head shape, it appears this way to us.

[EpicFrogMan]

im pretty sure we all know who your source is...

Ive gotten batches of frog ranch pixies before. Virtually identical and most of them were females. This years breed could be different and more on the male side. You probably have a bunch if thats the case.

[Jeff Kennedy]

It appears that way Epic. I re-iterate that it is too soon to judge as one batch is only two months old and the other a little over a month but it is looking that way. The ones that we have labeled as female just have a more narrow head then the ones that we have labeled male. Hopefully we are correct as our whole purpose was trying to raise that 10 incher that you hear everyone speak of but never see. We have a few that look to be on their way though .

[Jeff Kennedy]

Here is just two examples from the same group that we are talking about. Both frogs are from the same clutch. We are estimating the male to be the first due to it's wide head and the female to be the second one due to the more narrow head. If this is any indication of sex, then we have more males then females.

[EpicFrogMan]

nice take some more pictures if you can. Those are defintely males.i think i have 2 males out of the batch i got. I gave away a bunch to my friends maybe they will turn out with some monsters, but like i said i kinda prefer the females because they are more verocious in the long run. You cant go wrong either way. Here is a little beast that i think is a good indicator of a little male. He is not that active but hes a little specimen.

[John911]

So frogs the size of mine are pretty much impossible to sex?

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[John911]

Jeff the difference in the pics you posted seem to be pretty obvious. I tried to pick the ones where the body kind of seamlessly continued to the head lol. The one that was the blockiest looked like there was some kind of milkyness to both its eyes. Do you have an estimate on the age of mine?

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[Jeff Kennedy]

John, Josh's Frogs purchased direct from The Frog Ranch and would have received the second batch that Kim had available. These are 55 days old today. You made a right choice by picking a healthier looking specimen regardless of head size. If you end up with a female and desire a male, I can surely hook you up in the future as hopefully I will have many.

[willtilian]

i had the exact same theory but it was shot down

[Kevin1]

i had the exact same theory but it was shot down

I'd like to know who shot it down...
This theory has been around for quite sometime. When I first joined the "fat frog" hobby a few years ago, this was common knowledge on a forum that no longer exists.
While it is a good way to detect males early on, Youngsters like these with smaller heads can and do also turn out to be male.
A long with the head size they also believe young males have longer legs in comparison, maybe you guys can put this to the test.
Though in case you all didn't know 90% of pyxies can be accurately sexed at 4 inches.

[Jeff Kennedy]

It should be noted that the 55 days that I mentioned is from the time that eggs were produced. Remember that Pyxies average 18-21 days before they emerge into froglets.

[Jeff Kennedy]

Will, what theory are you speaking of being shot down? The head thickness??

[willtilian]

yeah that one

[Malachi]

The one i have that i believe is a male, is larger lighter and has a wider head.

Also when they were all the same size it still seemed male.

[onedge30]

Wow, Jeff. those photos are great. They sure do look like a male and a female by the head structure compared to the body. It will be a GREAT insight to the species when we do find out the sex. Thank you for keeping us posted.

Jeff, what kind of filing system are you using for filing your photos for each specimen? And data figures?