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    Hey everyone. Thanks to John for putting in this new section for us! Especially since I am currently creating a 25 gallon vivarium for my fire bellies...complete with live plants! Just wondering what kind of light I should set up for the plants.

    As well, I have the opportunity to get a 55 gallon that I want to set up as a vivarium as well. I would like to try something new-either frog or salamander and was just wondering if other members could give me some suggestions on easy to care for species and how many I can put into a tank that size.

    Thanks for any input!

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    I have the best luck with either standard T8 florescent, or regular old florescent freshwater aquarium lights.

    It really depends on what plants you chose though.

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    I have the best luck with either standard T8 florescent, or regular old florescent freshwater aquarium lights.

    It really depends on what plants you chose though.
    Thanks! I'll track one down next time I'm at the pet store.

    I'm going to look for plants that are hardy, non toxic and will stay relatively green even if I do go near them-I don't have the best luck with plants other than bamboo. It might be trial and error for a bit!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jace View Post
    As well, I have the opportunity to get a 55 gallon that I want to set up as a vivarium as well. I would like to try something new-either frog or salamander and was just wondering if other members could give me some suggestions on easy to care for species and how many I can put into a tank that size.

    Thanks for any input!
    You're welcome. You could set that 55 up for a dart frog, rubber frog, or mantella species. Build a false bottom (see my red-eye care article for more info.) and plant it heavily with bromeliads and other tough ardy plants. Have a few pieces of plate glass cut to the inside dimensions of the tanks frame. Leave a space for ventalation. Stuff that space with a folded up paper towel to keep fruit flies in.

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    Thanks Kurt. I'll do some research on those suggestions and go from there. I am also looking into salamanders. Rubber frog was high on my list too! And thanks for setting up this Vivarium forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jace View Post
    Thanks Kurt. I'll do some research on those suggestions and go from there. I am also looking into salamanders. Rubber frog was high on my list too! And thanks for setting up this Vivarium forum.

    Thank John, it was his doing. Rubber frogs are still pretty inexpensive and Phrynomantis bifasciatus are quite common. They are not as active as darts or mantellas, but they are still fun to watch, especially when they are eating.

    Most salamanders do not make good dispaly animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt View Post
    Thank John, it was his doing.
    Thank Johnny (Sludgemunkey), it was his idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt View Post
    Thank John, it was his doing. Rubber frogs are still pretty inexpensive and Phrynomantis bifasciatus are quite common. They are not as active as darts or mantellas, but they are still fun to watch, especially when they are eating.

    Most salamanders do not make good dispaly animals.
    After some research, I think salamanders are not an option, interesting as they are. So far it's a toss between mantellas and rubber frogs. I will have to do some more reading on both to decide. Thanks for the advice!

    And thanks to Johnny (SludgeMunkey) for this forum suggestion. Already been very helpful!

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    Tiger Salamanders make good terrestrial display animals if they are tame. Most newt/salamander species that are good display animals are aquatic.
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    Well, rubber frogs are generally cheaper, so you can get a decent size population with putting yourself in the poor house.

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