ID Please

[Alexander]

Hi
I have no Idea what this frog is does anyone know??

[John]

Definitely a Hylid. Where did you get it? We can give you a better ID if we know where it came from.

[Alexander]

It is under or just about an inch long. it was labeled as a green tree frog but it definitely is not one. It sounds like a sea gull and I got it from a pet store 6 or 7 years ago.

[Kurt]

Any other pictures?

[Alexander]

here's another pic of him

[Alexander]

anyone ???

[Kurt]

I am afraid you have a toughie there. I was leaning towards a Dendropsophus species, but after looking through a bunch of pictures the only one that came close was Dendropsophus phlebodes, and even then only one picture looked like your frog. May have to do more research.

[tylototriton]

I'm not gonna lie, i'm absolutely stumped. I'm really thinking it's a Hylid, but thats equivalent to calling a snake a Colubrid. (Terrible taxonomy joke...) The problem is that without knowing the origins, it can be very difficult to pin down a species. Hopefully someone will stumble across this post and recognize it.

Best of Luck,
Alex

[SethD]

Does it have any flash marks on its thighs?

[Alexander]

Ya I have been stumped on what he is for 6 yrs. He is about an inch long. He has no flash marks.

[Chaya]

hey! your frog looks quite similar to my frog! who was also marketed as a green tree frog lol! I have had mine about 6 months now...he is a constant caller! heres my thread so you can see the images of mine!

http://www.frogforum.net/other-frogs...id-please.html

[Kurt]

I just IDed your and now I am thinking this is the same frog, Hyla squirella.

[JimO]

Given its smaller size than the frog on the other thread, I'm with Kurt on this one. Does it call? If so, the best way to ID it would be from the call.

If it isn't a male, then the two frogs in question are probably different species because the frog in the other thread appears to be at least 1.5 to 2 inches. However, I defer to others because my knowledge of tree frogs is pretty much limited to those in my area.

I just IDed your and now I am thinking this is the same frog, Hyla squirella.

[Chaya]

Hey JimO.... my frogs the one in the other thread... he looks big but is actually only and inch and a quarter EXACTLY... i got to measure him... so i think both frogs (theirs and mine) are close to the same size!

[JimO]

Wow really!? Maybe I need glasses . Well, that fits well with the squirrel tree frog.

Hey JimO.... my frogs the one in the other thread... he looks big but is actually only and inch and a quarter EXACTLY... i got to measure him... so i think both frogs (theirs and mine) are close to the same size!

[SethD]

I just IDed your and now I am thinking this is the same frog, Hyla squirella.

I don't think this particular one is a squirrel tree frog. Almost positive it isn't actually. Squirrel tree frogs are native to this area and the body shape and often the coloration resembles a green tree frog quite strongly. This frog does not. The body shape and general look of this frog remind me of nothing so much as a peculiarly colored gray tree frog. In the first pic of the dorsal view it seems as if you you can see a hint of the patterning that would appear on the back of a normal gray tree frog though it is greatly reduced. The 1 1/4 size would also be within the size range of an adult male gray although towards the smaller end. As such I would lean towards it either being a aberrantly patterned gray tree frog or some form of uncommonly imported tropical species that I am not able to identify. I am pretty sure it isn't any other type of north american tree frog though.

[Kurt]

I feel 75% sure on my ID, on Jessicas 100%, and this one is very similar to hers. I was stumped with hers at first but when I did a little reading in the Audubon field guide I came to the conclusion that Jessica's was indeed Hyla squirella. There is a brown morph as well as a green morph. There's a picture in the book that identical to hers.
This frog is very similar to hers, very similar. The side view pictures looks a little short in stature to be Hyla squirella, but the other two look right.

[SethD]

I feel 75% sure on my ID, on Jessicas 100%, and this one is very similar to hers. I was stumped with hers at first but when I did a little reading in the Audubon field guide I came to the conclusion that Jessica's was indeed Hyla squirella. There is a brown morph as well as a green morph. There's a picture in the book that identical to hers.
This frog is very similar to hers, very similar. The side view pictures looks a little short in stature to be Hyla squirella, but the other two look right.

Oh I agree with you on the other one, but if you look at the "neck" thickness on this one it doesn't seem to be proportioned right to be a squirrel. They have thinner necks like a green tree frog. This one has a thicker neck.

[tylototriton]

Yeah, i'm hesitant to settle on Hyla squirella. Most have a white upper lip, which I don't see on this one. Also, the body doesn't quite seem right. That being said, I am pretty sure it is some sort of American Hylid, maybe something like a Canyon Tree Frog? (Hyla arenicolor)

Alex

[JimO]

Maybe this one just works out more.

Oh I agree with you on the other one, but if you look at the "neck" thickness on this one it doesn't seem to be proportioned right to be a squirrel. They have thinner necks like a green tree frog. This one has a thicker neck.