HELP! Bringing home darts....

[John]

For taking care of tadpoles:

http://www.frogforum.net/breeding-eg...ding-food.html

[kevinpilon1]

You want the temps in the 70's daytime w near 100% humidity. Many people just seal their tanks completely and only air them out for a little bit during feeding. Definitely check out how to culture fruit flies as you'll need em. It is quite simple but can seem to be a hassle at first.

dendroboard.com is another forum and is dedicated completely to dart frogs. Pretty much everything there is to know about darts is there check it out!

What's the species? That will affect how you deal with the tads.

If you wanna get rid of a couple of the group I could help

good luck!

[kevinpilon1]

Could we see the set up? You said it was beautiful that sparked my fancy.....

[whiteroses91]

Thanks everyone, the new comers have made in through their first night. I've had the tank set up for probably 6 months or something. I couldn't decide on a frog, so it stayed just a little planted tank. Everyone is very lively this morning, but I can not find the tadpoles in my little pond...I'm hoping all is well with them. At the moment, my temp is 77 and my humidity is 95%(which is has only once gotten higher than this, so I hope this will be alright.)
I got a container of already started cultures, so I'll have to get my practice in. But I do have another question, the guy the rescue got the frogs from said to feed them about 30 flies each? From my research, they only need about 3-5 each? Probably just a miscomunication?

Because we have so many frogs, we have officially decided to set up the 90 gallon tank as a frog tank, so within the next two days I hope to get that up and running.

[whiteroses91]

oh and curious does the churping sound they make kind of sound like a cricket? If so, they are churping like crazy.

[JimO]

They look like Dendrobates auratus, but they also look a little odd, like they might be hybrids. Can you get a close-up shot? From a distance the pattern on their legs looks a bit odd.

[JimO]

The tank looks nice, but I'm afraid it is much too small for 8 frogs. They are territorial and the more submissive frogs can be intimidated and ultimately waste away due to stress and not being able to compete for food. Ideally, they should be paired up and each pair be placed in tanks of at least 20 gallons.

[JimO]

But I do have another question, the guy the rescue got the frogs from said to feed them about 30 flies each? From my research, they only need about 3-5 each? Probably just a miscomunication?

Depending on how often you feed them, 30 to 50 flies each is about right. I feed mine about every other day. Some feed twice a week.

They will also take very small meal worms, true pinhead crickets (tiny), and they love termites. But, termites to dart frogs are like pastry or cheese to us, a very nice treat, but a steady diet will make them chubby.

If they are hybrids, they shouldn't be allowed to breed, but could be enjoyed as beautiful pets. A 90-gallon might be ok for 8 frogs if there are a lot of hide spots and visual barriers. There will be some wrestling among the males, but as long as there is enough room for the less aggressive males to retreat, it might work. If they lay eggs you could either remove and dispose of the eggs or just leave everything go its natural way. Froglets might emerge from the water but most likely won't make it if it gets too crowded. Some of the adults might die and some froglets might grow to take their place. This all assumes they are hybrids. If so, they shouldn't be given to a novice if you decide to give some away, but only to experienced keepers who will agree not to breed them and give them a good home.

Considering that some unique morphs of certain dart frogs species might become extinct in the wild, the only way to have any hope of re-establishing them is to avoid cross breeding morphs with a species or cross breeding species. If captive bred frogs are ever released in the wild, they will have to have traceable bloodlines back to the original morph from that region. As such, cross-breeding dart frogs is strongly discouraged.

[MichaelS]

They aren't auratus. They look like tinctorius. They are may be powder blue and probably not a cross. It's hard to tell from the picture. 100% humidity and little ventilation can cause problems. Adult female tinctorius can be territorial and like to fight. Keep an eye on them to be sure they are not fighting. A nasty trick female tincts will do is hold other females under in a water dish or water area.

[kevinpilon1]

What problems r u referring to w/ 100% humidity? I have never heard of any. I suppose some people leave their tanks closed for days at a time and that could be unhealthy.

[JimO]

I was actually thinking of an auratus/tinc cross, maybe auratus crossed with azureus.

They aren't auratus. They look like tinctorius. They are may be powder blue and probably not a cross. It's hard to tell from the picture. 100% humidity and little ventilation can cause problems. Adult female tinctorius can be territorial and like to fight. Keep an eye on them to be sure they are not fighting. A nasty trick female tincts will do is hold other females under in a water dish or water area.

[JimO]

They aren't auratus. They look like tinctorius. They are may be powder blue and probably not a cross.

Again, I hate to disagree, but I have Powder Blue tadpoles that I obtained from a breeder and here are a couple of pictures of the parents for reference.