Literature on horned frog care

[ArchGrammarian]

Hello, everyone

I've tried taking the initiative to become a more active member of this site, only being apprehended by my studies and by my lack of expertise and topic ideas. However, I just remembered a question that's been on my mind for some time:

Do you have a recommendation for literature regarding the care and/or life habits of frogs of the genus Ceratophrys?

Most of what I've learned of horned frog care comes from my studies of biology and zoology (I'm a biology major at Henderson State University in Arkansas), researching scholarly articles (and not-so-scholarly) on the web, and, perhaps most pertinent of all, the expertise of the very helpful members of this forum. That being said, I'm very open to suggestions on informative literature on horned frogs, particularly the species C. ornata, C. cranwelli, and C. cornuta. Being a student in uni, money is no object when it comes to buying literature (particularly after having to buy over $200 worth of human anatomy and physiology texts), so feel free to recommend anything from the free literature online to hard copies of texts written by specialists.

As always, I appreciate any and all feedback!

Kyle

[John]

Hi Kyle,

The fact is that there isn't a heck of a lot in the English language that is specifically about their care. What there is mainly amounts to short pet guides, like the TFH book, the Barron's book, and the Phillipe de Vosjoli's book.

A lady posted on the site a month or two ago showing off breeding her cranwelli pacman frogs and I asked her to write something about them but of course she didn't. That's pretty typical.

[SethD]

Hi Kyle,

The fact is that there isn't a heck of a lot in the English language that is specifically about their care. What there is mainly amounts to short pet guides, like the TFH book, the Barron's book, and the Phillipe de Vosjoli's book.

A lady posted on the site a month or two ago showing off breeding her cranwelli pacman frogs and I asked her to write something about them but of course she didn't. That's pretty typical.

Part of the reason little is written about their care is no doubt because the basics can be covered in about three or four lines and it can be covered throughly in a couple of paragraphs. Breeding isn't discussed much because there is a perception(and probably an accurate one) that there are already a sufficient number of breeders to keep the market well supplied.

[ArchGrammarian]

Hi, John.

Thank you for the recommendations. Both the Barron's book and the book written by de Vosjoli are available at Amazon.com and I plan to order both posthaste (I know the Barron's has some ten pages devoted to breeding, as it has a preview on Google Books). It's rather disappointing the lady you mentioned didn't divulge any information. Upon gaining full-time employment after graduating from uni, I'd very much like to take up working with frogs as a hobby.

[ArchGrammarian]

Hello, SethD.

I asked the topic question only to see if there were any sources more thorough than some of the sites I've encountered. As you said, much of the basics are indeed explained in only a few sentences (for instance, the article written by Devin Edmonds on Amphibian Care was enough to prepare me on creating an enclosure and provide me with an understanding of the expectations associated with feeding, etc.); however, perhaps due to my fondness of academia, I tend to thumb my nose at online sources if there are more trustworthy sources about. This is probably a bad habit on my part-- I'm not rightly sure.

[SethD]

Hello, SethD.

I asked the topic question only to see if there were any sources more thorough than some of the sites I've encountered. As you said, much of the basics are indeed explained in only a few sentences (for instance, the article written by Devin Edmonds on Amphibian Care was enough to prepare me on creating an enclosure and provide me with an understanding of the expectations associated with feeding, etc.); however, perhaps due to my fondness of academia, I tend to thumb my nose at online sources if there are more trustworthy sources about. This is probably a bad habit on my part-- I'm not rightly sure.

Yes, it is indeed a bad habit. Seriously, for a beginner it isn't a bad idea to be careful about sources. I have been keeping frogs a while so when I read something that doesn't seem just "right" I know it probably isn't.

If you want to tie in your fondness for academia with a frog keeping/breeding hobby I would suggest a different species. Horned frogs are well established ground. There are many frogs/toad species in the trade that have seldom or never been captive bred and that is where academia can provide helpful hints on breeding when you sift through the literature. That is what I enjoy doing, poking around with species very few people have tried or been successful at breeding before.

[IvoryReptiles]

Hi Kyle,

The fact is that there isn't a heck of a lot in the English language that is specifically about their care. What there is mainly amounts to short pet guides, like the TFH book, the Barron's book, and the Phillipe de Vosjoli's book.

A lady posted on the site a month or two ago showing off breeding her cranwelli pacman frogs and I asked her to write something about them but of course she didn't. That's pretty typical.

I am sorry I didn't jump to drop everything I am doing and rush to write the info for you.
We have been very busy with the frogs....... we have lives. We are also doing more research to make sure that our information is correct and sustainable.........it matters to us to give correct information.

Showing off? Yeah, I guess so. We are very proud of the fact that we succeeded in breeding our pair without the use of hormone injections & recorded mating calls. Here I thought I was sharing our success with folks who would get it......... guess I was wrong.

I am working on an article on what we have done as far as care goes and have been working on it when I get time to. I planned on posting it to a few forums. If you are still interested in it, I will post it here too............. when it's finished.

We breed all kinds of reptiles along with the frogs..........we are busy with their care, so my time is limited. I'm not apologizing, I am informing.

[SethD]

I am sorry I didn't jump to drop everything I am doing and rush to write the info for you.
We have been very busy with the frogs....... we have lives. We are also doing more research to make sure that our information is correct and sustainable.........it matters to us to give correct information.

Showing off? Yeah, I guess so. We are very proud of the fact that we succeeded in breeding our pair without the use of hormone injections & recorded mating calls. Here I thought I was sharing our success with folks who would get it......... guess I was wrong.

I am working on an article on what we have done as far as care goes and have been working on it when I get time to. I planned on posting it to a few forums. If you are still interested in it, I will post it here too............. when it's finished.

We breed all kinds of reptiles along with the frogs..........we are busy with their care, so my time is limited. I'm not apologizing, I am informing.

I am sure john didn't mean anything by it, no need to get upset. Just so you know though quite a few people have bred horned frogs without hormones, it just requires proper cycling and a certain amount of luck.