7 Dead and counting please help

[1beataway]

There's a difference between surviving and thriving. It's similar to putting a goldfish in a bowl. Some people are able to do this and kept a fish alive for a couple years, but there's no way that fish is happy and healthy. It's likewise with mixing frogs. They end up basically poisoning each other.

Also, right now you have store bought frogs mixed with wild caught frogs. If the frogs you bought at the store are captive bred, they could now be coming in contact with parasites they are not used to from the wild caught animals.

Again, I'm not sure why right now it's only the bullfrogs that are dying off, but I stand by my first post. I think the 10 gallon tank is overcrowded.

Does your city use chlorine or chloramine in the water? This usually affects fish pretty quick, but I assume it would affect the amphibians as well.

[bshmerlie]

First off a 10 gallon tank is way to small for the quantity of pets you have. Next the firebelly toxin will eventually kill off everything else in the tank. When I first got my two firebellies without knowing I put them in a tank that had fish and within only a few days all the fish were dead. If you want to keep that many pets make some nice enclosures for each species and see them thrive. Catching so many animals from the wild and putting them together is not being responsible for their well being.

[BloodyEyes420]

just got my humditiy meter its about 50% at 76*f this moment. We changed are water treatment to chloramine a few years ago I guess. This is not kewl I don't know a thing about it, I have never even heard about. Good news is the rest of my pets are alive and seem to be thriving. alittle concerned about the toads posion, because my turtle likes to sit by him and vise versa.all of my minows are alive its been close too 2 weeks soooooooooooooooooo idk but I read people mix tree frogs alot with fire bellies youtube it. I have 50% water with 85% of it covered by land multi level surfaces with a water fall and small cliff over looking it. they seem to enjoy climbing alot, its not the most ideal living space but I'm gonna get 50 gallon high top in the next month. I just want a cheap stand really bad. sorry if i seem inexperinced I'm just a domestic pet keeper I dont care for exotic or foregin, but the toad looked so kewl for 10 bucks. I have never had a diese probelm with the say 40-50 animals I've caught from salmanders turtles snakes frogs toads and this one very odd orange lizard I found and sold to my friend. The food chain happens idc I just keep small animals with small animals and large with large. I honestly love mixxing things makes things more lively. don't get me wrong I whis my pets no ill will. but I really have NEVER had one single thing happen because of it other than say a big frog eating a much smaller one. or a turtle eating a small frog. they leave the big ones alone always have.

[1beataway]

If your city uses chloramine, then you can't just let the water sit out, like you could if the water had chlorine. The chloramine stays, and that would be dangerous for the animals.

It's kinda sad to not care about some of the animals getting eaten or being poisoned because you decide to mix. By owning pets, you're accepting the responsibility for that pet and for their care and well-being.

Many people try to mix animals and end up with very bad consequences. Every single one of us would love to have one huge tank with lots of varities of frogs or other animals. I have a friend who use to have a mix tank. And they all seemed ok. But now that I look back, I can definitely recall times they got sick, and how inactive they were. The frogs are now split up and I have 2 of them, and they are more active and more brillantly colored than they ever were.

There are some true experts on this forum who have studied and have kept frogs for so many years, and they could tell you all the reasons not to mix if you don't want to buy what I'm saying. The fire-bellied toad is definitely poisoning the other creatures in there.

Of the 40-50 animals you have caught, how long did they live before they died? Some animals can live for years, maybe even 10-15. It's the same with fish too. Poor maintenance or lack of good information mean that a lot of people's fish live for a few months or a year or two when they could live for so many more, and be healthier and brighter and more active.

[BloodyEyes420]

who says they are dead? Ever one that has aquired one of my form pet still has them to my knowledge. Several turles I know for a fact because the people are good friends of mine, most of my old frogs I let go however. I do care about the toxins of the toad thats a senseless way for a pet to die. If you all insists on its posion being so toxic I guess I'll have to take him and put him in a creature keeper for awhile and just put him in the 10 gal when I get the 50. so what do you recomend I do about the water I want to take care of that asap.

[1beataway]

Turtles, imo, seem to be very hardy animals that can withstand a lot.

Even though the fire-bellied toads will kill the other creatures, the other frogs do release toxins that affect the other creatures as well, even if it's not as potent. The best thing would be to separate all frogs.

It's too bad that the fire-bellied toad will have to go into a critter keeper. Those little guys are very active and like a lot of room to move around. But hopefully it won't be too long.

As far as the water goes, like I said, I would separate all the frogs, and then change out the water and use a water conditioner. You can use either one you'll find in the reptile section or in the fish section. That will remove the chlorine and metals in the water. I'm asking a friend and turtle expert if he has any other suggestions.

[Eel Noob]

Like everyone says, tank is too small and mixing species is not good idea.