7 Dead and counting please help

[BloodyEyes420]

Alright to sum this up fast I cought 6 bullfrogs and put them in a 10 gallon with drift wood fake plants to hide in the water, and some that hanged over the drift wood for a dry place to hide too. A week later I bought a baby Yellow ear turtle a light and a filter a "Reptile fliter'' and under gravel. about 6 days after this the started looking pale and sickly. one day later one had died. the next day 4 died. after that the other 2 died with in 24 hours.Shocked I Cleaned the whole cage witth hot water and a garden hose to spiher the water out. Replaced the water with water I had prepared for cleaning time. I didn’t just want a turtle so I set off to find more frogs. Ended up with 2 bullfrogs one with out arms and tail stub and other was fully formed, also I cought 30 minnows and 3 tadpoles. Then I got a firebelly toad from the pet store and a green tree frog. It has been a week since then, I walk in today and the older bull frog is dead. I don’t get it Every other thing is ok eating and healthly. Why in the world do all my bull frogs die and yet the tadpoles toad tree frog half a frog turtle and minnows are just fine? I have had bull frogs before never had a critter die that wasn’t eaten by another please help.

[1beataway]

I'm not sure why exactly it would be only bullfrogs dying right now, but there are several mistakes it seems to me you're making. First, you're mixing frogs, and that's a really bad idea. They all release toxins that will hurt each other. Next, I wouldn't add a turtle with frogs, especially in that small of a tank. Turtles release waste in the water, and I think that in such a small tank with so many animals in it, that waste is going to build up pretty fast. I think in general, even if you only had the bullfrogs, you're overloading that tank.

What type of water are you using? It's not straight tap water, right? What about substrate? What are you feeding? What is the temperature and humidity in the tank?

[Jace]

I agree-don't mix different frog species together or with another species of animal at all. As well, Bullfrogs will eat each other, so keeping more than one bullfrog in an enclosure is asking for someone to get eaten.

[BloodyEyes420]

thank you for responding I used to mix frogs and turtles all the time, I had a 1 lepord 1 frog green frog and 1 bull frog in a 75 gallon with a musk turtle (adult) Softshell (baby) Red ear slider (adult) 3 snapping turles (2 baby) (1 juv) and a map turtle (juv). I just put fish into the aquarium and the left each other alone I did have another aquarium at the time where i kept smaller frogs as they would get eaten by the bigger frogs . had them for 6 years before I gave them away, caught them all my self too.

Anyway the tanks water is about 76*f when the lights on at night it gets down to about 71*f. I don't know what the humditiy is but I mist with a spray bottle 2 times a day about 8 hours apart in time once in the moring and once after work. I did feed my frist 6 frogs grass hoppers and crickets that I caught my self. now I'm feeding them store bought crickets, well my fire belly and tree frog, this is what I feed the 2 bull frogs tht just died. I have gravel in the bottom. as for the turtle he is barely 2 inchs and tends to use the bathroom while basking so alot of his fecal matter never enters the water. and yes I clean it up. the water I used is tap it sat for about 9 nine day prior to being used and sat in the sun for 6 hours when frist poured. I keep it in an old cooler I have always done things this way.

I don't have any probelms with any thing at all execpt for bull frogs my toad and tree frog are bigger than my turtle and they hide in places he doesn't even go. the bullfrog tadpoles are still alive too, execpt for the tiny one that was barly 1/4 inch (Turtler ate him) he eats minnows so I saw this coming.

[1beataway]

There's a difference between surviving and thriving. It's similar to putting a goldfish in a bowl. Some people are able to do this and kept a fish alive for a couple years, but there's no way that fish is happy and healthy. It's likewise with mixing frogs. They end up basically poisoning each other.

Also, right now you have store bought frogs mixed with wild caught frogs. If the frogs you bought at the store are captive bred, they could now be coming in contact with parasites they are not used to from the wild caught animals.

Again, I'm not sure why right now it's only the bullfrogs that are dying off, but I stand by my first post. I think the 10 gallon tank is overcrowded.

Does your city use chlorine or chloramine in the water? This usually affects fish pretty quick, but I assume it would affect the amphibians as well.

[bshmerlie]

First off a 10 gallon tank is way to small for the quantity of pets you have. Next the firebelly toxin will eventually kill off everything else in the tank. When I first got my two firebellies without knowing I put them in a tank that had fish and within only a few days all the fish were dead. If you want to keep that many pets make some nice enclosures for each species and see them thrive. Catching so many animals from the wild and putting them together is not being responsible for their well being.