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    Default 3yo - Trixie not eating! Help

    1. Size of enclosure - 19"-19"-24"(height)
    2. # of inhabitants - 1
    3. Humidity - 80 day- 85 night
    4. Temperature - 27.4șC Day - 25.7șC night by day/night+light thermostat.
    5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish - bottled water with reptisafe treatment.
    6. Materials used for substrate - Coconut fiber
    7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials. - 1 fake plant 1 water dish
    8. Main food source - dubias, nightcrawlers.
    9. Vitamins and calcium? 1 time yes 1 time no
    10. Lighting- 1w led 4000k 12h day
    11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure - ceramic heat lamp
    12. When is the last time he/she ate - november 2019
    13. Have you found poop lately - last time before aestivation.
    14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine) - attached
    15. Describe frog's symptoms and/or recent physical changes; to include it's ventral/belly area. - some bloating too.
    16. How old is the frog - 3 Years old
    17. How long have you owned him/her - 3 years
    18. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred - captive bread
    19. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats -> pinkies, crickets
    20. How often the frog is handled - rarely
    21. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area - yes
    22. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc) - daily water change. mix the substrate and spot clean every day too. substrate every 2 months.

    Hello guys,
    it's been a while since i've been here,
    Well my 3yo pacman frog has gone in aestivation for the third time. But this time it is longer. He still seems to be shedding. He has stopped eating in november 2019.
    So, not interested in live pinkies, not interested in dubias nor nightcrawlers. He just dodges food and turns arround. Have not yet tried more crickets. I know this is normal in estivation. My concern is that it has been a long estivation already.
    I've been putting him in water honey bath, no joy either.
    He's becoming skinny...
    Well usually this behavoir last about 4 months, this year is already in 6 months and counting.
    I've no idea what is happening.
    I've changed its substrate from ecoearth to another brand but it should be the same.
    Do any of you have an idea of what is happening?
    Thanks.
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    Default Re: 3yo - Trixie not eating! Help

    Is that the frog's normal color?

    Stop using the honey bath. That's not going to help.

    You are going to have to force feed the frog if it will not eat. Try crickets before you attempt to force need the frog.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Is that the frog's normal color?

    Stop using the honey bath. That's not going to help.

    You are going to have to force feed the frog if it will not eat. Try crickets before you attempt to force need the frog.
    Hello,
    Yes that's the normal color. Last year he was green this year he's a bit clearer on the green and the brown is darker. But the flash on the camera makes it look even more clear than he is.
    I did offer him live and frozen(defrosted ofcourse) pinkies. No joy
    I bothered him a lot yesterday and managed to feed him two dubias. Better than nothing. It seems that he doesnt want to open mouth. Also it dodges food, turn arround and burrows.
    I will try crickets too.
    If not i'll force feed him.

    Any ideias why he doesnt want to open up that mouth? This guy never had problems eating. Sometimes he needs a honey bath he poops and eats again that's all.

    He doesnt have any uvb light or things like that. But if you believe that would help i can get one. Just a led and ceramic heater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by froghub View Post
    Hello,
    Yes that's the normal color. Last year he was green this year he's a bit clearer on the green and the brown is darker. But the flash on the camera makes it look even more clear than he is.
    I did offer him live and frozen(defrosted ofcourse) pinkies. No joy
    I bothered him a lot yesterday and managed to feed him two dubias. Better than nothing. It seems that he doesnt want to open mouth. Also it dodges food, turn arround and burrows.
    I will try crickets too.
    If not i'll force feed him.

    Any ideias why he doesnt want to open up that mouth? This guy never had problems eating. Sometimes he needs a honey bath he poops and eats again that's all.

    He doesnt have any uvb light or things like that. But if you believe that would help i can get one. Just a led and ceramic heater.
    Sometimes when they come out of aestivation their personality seems to change. They may be more likely to bite, change their preferred food, or just be even more lazy. It doesn't happen with all individuals, but some seem to not want to eat and just burrow back down.

    Sometimes all they need to spark their appetite is to just eat something. I'm going to recommend that when you force feed that you use Repta-Boost. Follow the instructions. This can act as an appetite stimulant.

    Do stop with the honey baths. Try just warm water. Using the honey bath too often can be harmful.

    UVB can be beneficial, but is not necessary. You can try it out and use it as a form of supplemtation.

    When you offer food is it dark in the room and the enclosure?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Sometimes when they come out of aestivation their personality seems to change. They may be more likely to bite, change their preferred food, or just be even more lazy. It doesn't happen with all individuals, but some seem to not want to eat and just burrow back down.

    Sometimes all they need to spark their appetite is to just eat something. I'm going to recommend that when you force feed that you use Repta-Boost. Follow the instructions. This can act as an appetite stimulant.

    Do stop with the honey baths. Try just warm water. Using the honey bath too often can be harmful.

    UVB can be beneficial, but is not necessary. You can try it out and use it as a form of supplemtation.

    When you offer food is it dark in the room and the enclosure?
    Alright, will try repta boost when i get some crickets.
    I did stop the honey baths, just warm water for a while now.

    About the uvb, what lamp would you recommend, and how many hours a day?

    I try both, i do have more joy when i feed him during day. This guy has rarely eat at night. And i did try lights off too various times.

    About repta boost seems that we dont have this in europe. Any other product similiar to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by froghub View Post
    Alright, will try repta boost when i get some crickets.
    I did stop the honey baths, just warm water for a while now.

    About the uvb, what lamp would you recommend, and how many hours a day?

    I try both, i do have more joy when i feed him during day. This guy has rarely eat at night. And i did try lights off too various times.

    About repta boost seems that we dont have this in europe. Any other product similiar to this?
    No particular lamp necessary. Just one that fits the bulb. Use something around 25 watts that is full spectrum. Exo Terra Repti-Glo 2.0.

    You can use it for the main daylight bulb so no need to change the photoperiod.

    I do not know of any similar products offered in Europe. If you have a Vet you can see if they can get you some Emeraid Carnivore or something similar.

    You should only offer food early morning or at night. They are nocturnal after all.


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