American Toad weird symptoms. New owner, need help

[KP]

Listen if there is a post that I feel the need to respond to then I am going to do so. If I don't believe the best advice is given then I'm going to give a response. It doesn't matter who comments on the thread. You shouldn't take this so personal I'm not interested in trolling you I'm just trying to help someone out. I have done this for 5 years on the site now. I've gotten into disagreements with many people but I've also helped a lot of people so it just is what it is. I'm sorry that you feel like I'm trolling you but if you have a problem then either pm me and we can try to work it out or talk to an admin.

Two times now I've been trying to either make peace or end the conversation and idk why we can't just move past this thread. It's not helping anyone who reads this anymore. I'll try to unfollow the post of that makes you feel better. Can we just please be done and move on from this?

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You're still doing it.
You start the trolling and then act like you just want the person you troll to stop, just to "be done and move along".
You interject by trying to tear down what someone else says with your opinion and then act all the victim when you're called out for trolling.
You need to knock it off. It's not your call to end any conversation, particularly if you weren't a part of it in the first place, you just decided to troll the thread and now you want it to end because you can't troll it without being called out for it. That is the very definition of "Trolling".

That you've "done this for 5 years on this site now" and that you've "gotten into disagreements with many people" as you say is exactly your problem.

If you feel a burning need to oppose what someone else says, what you need to do is leave your ego aside and simply state your position directly to the questioner and be detatched from needing to look like the smartest person in the room.
This will allow the questioner to read and sift through all the information and opinions given to them by all of the people who respond and not to have to choose between the personalities of the people offering their advice and opinions.

The bottom line for you is that you need to stop your trolling behavior and stop complaining that it's you whose been attacked or victimized whenever you're called on it after you do it.

[Larry Wardog]

You're still doing it.
You start the trolling and then act like you just want the person you troll to stop, just to "be done and move along".
You interject by trying to tear down what someone else says with your opinion and then act all the victim when you're called out for trolling.
You need to knock it off. It's not your call to end any conversation, particularly if you weren't a part of it in the first place, you just decided to troll the thread and now you want it to end because you can't troll it without being called out for it. That is the very definition of "Trolling".

That you've "done this for 5 years on this site now" and that you've "gotten into disagreements with many people" as you say is exactly your problem.

If you feel a burning need to oppose what someone else says, what you need to do is leave your ego aside and simply state your position directly to the questioner and be detatched from needing to look like the smartest person in the room.
This will allow the questioner to read and sift through all the information and opinions given to them by all of the people who respond and not to have to choose between the personalities of the people offering their advice and opinions.

The bottom line for you is that you need to stop your trolling behavior and stop complaining that it's you whose been attacked or victimized whenever you're called on it after you do it.

At some point you have to realize that I've been trying to move on from the discussion with you because it's not helping anyone. I don't understand why you continue to feel the need to tell me that I'm a troll whenever I already explained to you that I am subscribed to these posts for toads and tree frogs and I am going to respond if I feel it is necessary. It has nothing to do with being the smartest person it's just about making sure the point is explained and followed up.

You have to understand you are on a public forum and you can't threaten someone to stop posting on a public forum. It's disappointing that you continue to say that I troll you and if that's how you feel I'm sorry you feel that way but if someone posts on something and if I feel the need to respond then I'm going to respond. Even if you respond I'm still going to respond if I believe I can give good advice to someone.

You need to understand you can't call dibs on a post and nobody else is allowed to post because of you. If you can't explain your point please don't get mad if someone asks you to. If your going to put a post out there it's fair game to challenge it. That's how people grow.

If you feel the need to keep going just make another post or something so we can just keep going if you want but this doesn't need to be on this person's post. I don't understand why you need to get the last word and feel so personally attacked but that's fine we can keep this going on if it's something you need to keep going back to.

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[KP]

You just can't stop your trolling. SMH

[Larry Wardog]

You just can't stop your trolling. SMH

Actually you are the troll you continue to keep the conversation going on and on and on and you say the same thing repeatedly. I don't understand why you can't move on from this discussion already?

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[KP]

Actually you are the troll you continue to keep the conversation going on and on and on and you say the same thing repeatedly. I don't understand why you can't move on from this discussion already?

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Here's your very first comment on this thread, and it's 100% troll:

"I'm not trying to sound negative but frogs and toads do not have the same emotions as what people do. They do not share compassion. If you keep too many toads in one setup they will try to starve each other just so that way they get more food. They are much smarter and are actually more strategist than what people believe but I do not believe they show compassion. regardless on if you have a wounded animal or a healthy animal their natural instinct is to try to get away and that is still something they are going to do regardless on how long you keep the animal. it's important to understand the slower and the more gentle you go with the frog or toad the better the experience and the more comfortable they feel so they're not as willing to try to escape and assume you are a predator. there is no scientific proof that shows these animals can show human emotions. The one thing that I am arguing that these animals possess that many people do not believe specifically for the North American tree frogs and toads is that they can become territorial in captivity and can establish a hierarchy. This is not something that is scientifically proven because some people do not believe this while others strongly believe this. I know from experience where I stand and someday I hope to write something about this becoming a researcher. But I just wanted to make it clear the only way they would know the intent is if you're going slow and you are not seeming as a threat to them."

From there you were off and running and you STILL can't seem to conTROLL your impulses.

[Larry Wardog]

Here's your very first comment on this thread, and it's 100% troll:

"I'm not trying to sound negative but frogs and toads do not have the same emotions as what people do. They do not share compassion. If you keep too many toads in one setup they will try to starve each other just so that way they get more food. They are much smarter and are actually more strategist than what people believe but I do not believe they show compassion. regardless on if you have a wounded animal or a healthy animal their natural instinct is to try to get away and that is still something they are going to do regardless on how long you keep the animal. it's important to understand the slower and the more gentle you go with the frog or toad the better the experience and the more comfortable they feel so they're not as willing to try to escape and assume you are a predator. there is no scientific proof that shows these animals can show human emotions. The one thing that I am arguing that these animals possess that many people do not believe specifically for the North American tree frogs and toads is that they can become territorial in captivity and can establish a hierarchy. This is not something that is scientifically proven because some people do not believe this while others strongly believe this. I know from experience where I stand and someday I hope to write something about this becoming a researcher. But I just wanted to make it clear the only way they would know the intent is if you're going slow and you are not seeming as a threat to them."

From there you were off and running and you STILL can't seem to conTROLL your impulses.

So you are using my words to explain why I had to try and clarify to the poster that frogs are not empathetic? That's not trolling hopefully you can read it again and understand why I posted it in the first place.

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[KP]

So you are using my words to explain why I had to try and clarify to the poster that frogs are not empathetic? That's not trolling hopefully you can read it again and understand why I posted it in the first place.

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Nope. You simply had to troll the thread with your opinion. Your opinion is as valid or invalid as anyone elses opinion but it's merely that. Your opinion. Your way of inserting it into a thread was and remains trollish.
And you're STILL doing it. Unable to conTROLL your impulse to assert your opinion as though it is fact and derailing threads to do so. Trolly, very trolly.
Your turn: Troll says what?