Edulis?

[onedge30]

Very interesting, Seth. And in reading a lot of data, it looks like adspersus and edulis have different breeding seasons. So a few hung over from adspersus and got caught by a few eager beavers from edulis.

OK, now here is the big one. If everyone watching this post 'had to' narrow all the photos you have seen of Pyxicephalus, down to 'the' three species, what pictures would you pic? Out of everything you can humanly find.

[Kevin1]

Very interesting, Seth. And in reading a lot of data, it looks like adspersus and edulis have different breeding seasons. So a few hung over from adspersus and got caught by a few eager beavers from edulis.

OK, now here is the big one. If everyone watching this post 'had to' narrow all the photos you have seen of Pyxicephalus, down to 'the' three species, what pictures would you pic? Out of everything you can humanly find.

That sounds like a quite a task. lol

[onedge30]

I know it sound daunting, but that is what we kinda are looking for.

Everything else, would be based off the 3 original species.

[tgampper]

Hi Folks:

I appreciate your help in putting together the guide. I would be interested in any photos or other information you have that will help us identify pyxies. Make sure you note the source for credit. PM me and I will give you my regular email address.

Mark-Oliver Roedel mentions that the dorsum (back) of P. edulis is more or less uniform yellow-green or olive-drab. Males are more greenish, while females are more olive brown. Females are most likely have a pale vertebral stripe and light lines on the ridges and warts.

The lower lip, fingertips and venter (belly) are uniform cream color. Males have dark yellow throats. On some individuals, the venter is completely yellow. The webs are darkly pigmented.

Juveniles have a bright, light green vertebral stripe, golden-brown speckles and black markings on dark green skin. These dark markings appear on lips and extremities.

Here is Roedel differs from Channing and Carruthers, Roedel says there is a dark patch present in the center of the tympanum. All the other sources I read say a light or white spot.

Roedel's account comes from his book, Herpetofauna of West Africa, Vol. 1: Amphibians of the West Africa Savanna. I wonder if edulis in western Africa are slightly different than those in southern Africa?

As far as P. obbianus, I don't have any more information than what I posted earlier on the P. Differences thread. Since they are from eastern Africa, I found out that none of my field guides cover that part of Africa. I know that Channing wrote a recent book on amphibians of eastern Africa - I ordered it today

[Malachi]

Hi Folks:
Mark-Oliver Roedel mentions that the dorsum (back) of P. edulis is more or less uniform yellow-green or olive-drab. Males are more greenish, while females are more olive brown. Females are most likely have a pale vertebral stripe and light lines on the ridges and warts.

The lower lip, fingertips and venter (belly) are uniform cream color. Males have dark yellow throats. On some individuals, the venter is completely yellow. The webs are darkly pigmented.

Juveniles have a bright, light green vertebral stripe, golden-brown speckles and black markings on dark green skin. These dark markings appear on lips and extremities.

Here is Roedel differs from Channing and Carruthers, Roedel says there is a dark patch present in the center of the tympanum. All the other sources I read say a light or white spot.

This description seems to match my edulis well, you can see from the photos i posted yesterday.

[onedge30]

Terry, by descriptions alone, do we know if obbianus is closer to edulis or adspersus? In appearance.

[tgampper]

Terry, by descriptions alone, do we know if obbianus is closer to edulis or adspersus? In appearance.

From the very limited information I have, obbianus looks more like adspersus.

[Daniel L]

sorry a replay to an old thread but the frogs on the firt pictures are true P. Edulis. Males are getting bright green in breeding time. Females keep there normal color. Look in my album my breeding edulis they get also bright green. Normaly the males are gray/brouwn but when I put them in the rain chamber they turned bright green and start croaking.
P. adspersus and P. edulis breeding in the same conditions. Males are also agressive but not that much as p. adspersus.
when breeding is over the males turning into brouwnish color again.

[Kevin1]

Mark-Oliver Roedel mentions that the dorsum (back) of P. edulis is more or less uniform yellow-green or olive-drab. Males are more greenish, while females are more olive brown. Females are most likely have a pale vertebral stripe and light lines on the ridges and warts.

That description fits the animals in the video well.

[tgampper]

That description fits the animals in the video well.

That's great. Looks like we have some confirmed pix of P. edulis!