Quote Originally Posted by pacsack View Post
WOW, that must be some bait shop! I wish I had one like that around here. I would feed any species of toad to your frog I have seen some people do it with CB but that still doesn't make it safe. In my opinion if you have a steady and inexpensive supply of frogs that would be acceptable. The reason she may not be accepting the worms right now is because she may still need time to calm down(Mine took almost a week to start eating)or she may just not recognize a worm as a prey item. I have that exact problem with both my frogs they tend to like things that are more active worms tend to move quite slowly and don't trigger as hard of a prey response as something like crickets might. That is just my opinion though. Also, I am not really sure how long you can keep horned worms before the metamorphose in addition it would be very hard to tell what instar they would be at when you receive them. One way to tell when they are either close to death or metamorphosis is by their skin color and texture. If they turn to a darker green and begin to harden then they are a few days from going into metamorphosis. If they are just dark green and still keep their soft texture I would just watch that worm for a day and make sure it either dies or develops the tell tale thicker skin. I always avoid feeding my frogs dieing food items, its just a pet peeve of mine I'm not really sure if there is even any merit to that precaution its just one I take.
well its not necessarily a bait shop, but a local feed shop, i live in an area where the local economy is based around farming, livestock, and fishing, and i guess its a family operation thats been going on for close to 80 years now, the people are nice and great to talk to, and i like to support the local businesses as i live in the county with highest unemployment rate in the united states, i myself was affected, one of these days people will be able to afford recreational vehicles, lol, anyways thanks for the advice on the toads, wouldnt let my poor frog getting ahold of a small colorado river toad and tripping out during it last minutes, even though if i was lucky enough to find one in a batch of toads, i definatly would be setting up a new enclosure for it, I do have one large cricket that is being treated like a family pet at this time, ive been introducing it at night before i go to bed, and if its still there in the morning, i take it and continue to gut load it, not sure if i should introduce anymore crickets as all my reptile keeper friends tell me to many will stress your animal out, my cranwelli used to eat crickets, but not so much the last few months so i haven't been keeping them around, shell eat sooner or later, my cranwelli didnt eat for 10 days when i first brought him home so i've learned to have patience, here in a few days after im confident shes settled ill probaly start to offer other foods like minnows, and introducing a few more crickets into the enclosre, and keep with offering a variety different worms, at this time im offering mealworms, red wigglers, earth worms, and silk worms, i guess i prefer worms as a staple as they are cheap, easily obtained, and they arent noisy or pissy smelling like a group of crickets after a few weeks, anyways good luck finding one if you decide to keep one, i spent quite a few late nights searching, and sent countless emails trying to find one, i had to spell the name of the frog wrong while googling to find one that wasnt beeing shipped from japan.