Whites tree frog bloated and hunched over?

[Lija]

I need to appologize. I meant to say - gutloaded or not crickets are NOT this frogs problem.

runny poop is good! Well, not really, but its much better then impaction or kidney failure. Combination of bloating and runny dark almost black poop shows infection, most likely protozoan, but could be bacterial, but good news here that is treatable, if started on time. Its common in frogs that didnt undergo proper quarantine and placed in naturalistic vivariums. It looks very humid by the way - what is your humidity?
You need vet Asap! And make sure you have poop sample with you. They will do fecal, depending on results, prescribe medication, depending in severity of bloating they might dispense solution for soaking as well.

Do not soak in water, it is isotonic solution. You need the opposite, you need hypertonic one, so for time being you could get pedialyte, mix 1 part of it with 5 parts of dechorinated water, place a frog for 20 min at a time.
You didnt say what mind of water do you use, but it has to be either dechlorinated tap (use any fish tank eater conditioner, i prefer prime) or you could use spring water from the bottle.
That soak wont solve the issue, but will replace some minerals and should reduce bloating somewhat, but as i said you need vet asap to help this frog.

[dumpyjunky]

I need to appologize. I meant to say - gutloaded or not crickets are NOT this frogs problem.

runny poop is good! Well, not really, but its much better then impaction or kidney failure. Combination of bloating and runny dark almost black poop shows infection, most likely protozoan, but could be bacterial, but good news here that is treatable, if started on time. Its common in frogs that didnt undergo proper quarantine and placed in naturalistic vivariums. It looks very humid by the way - what is your humidity?
You need vet Asap! And make sure you have poop sample with you. They will do fecal, depending on results, prescribe medication, depending in severity of bloating they might dispense solution for soaking as well.

Do not soak in water, it is isotonic solution. You need the opposite, you need hypertonic one, so for time being you could get pedialyte, mix 1 part of it with 5 parts of dechorinated water, place a frog for 20 min at a time.
You didnt say what mind of water do you use, but it has to be either dechlorinated tap (use any fish tank eater conditioner, i prefer prime) or you could use spring water from the bottle.
That soak wont solve the issue, but will replace some minerals and should reduce bloating somewhat, but as i said you need vet asap to help this frog.

I use dechlorinated tap water (I use a Reptisafe water conditioner). I usually keep humidity around 60-70%. Is that too high? And unfortunately I called the nearest vet that will look at amphibians and they were going to charge me a hefty price just to bring him in and at the moment I do not have that kind of money I will definitely go and pick up some pedialyte since that is something I can afford at the moment.

[dumpyjunky]

I had no idea that a naturalistic environment could be the result of something like this. Darnit.

[Lija]

I had no idea that a naturalistic environment could be the result of something like this. Darnit.

What happens in such environment is that everything that gets into in, stays and multiplies in it. For example protozoa is natural to have for frogs, its everywhere, most of them are commencal and nothing to worry about. In a wild every single frog has them with no problems even with patogenic ones, its like everything around us - lots and different bacterias and viruses, it is everywhere, but you need special kind of conditions to get sick, sometimes its stress, sometimes its just too many of them for body to handle ok.
same with frogs, they are just fine with protozoa, they adapted to it, no problems, but The problem happenes when the frog that is not tested is being placed in enclosed space. Its better when everything in a tank gets stripped and desinfected monthly, you dont do that to naturalistic tanks, so all of that multiplies and everything is fine, until its too many of them for frog to handle and you see something like you are experiencing now. If that is protozoa, your other frog has it too, but perhaps it is still ok handling. So every time before placing a frog to naturalistic tank you need to make sure it is healthy. Fecal should be clean and if not... you will most likely have problems soon

[Larry Wardog]

I had no idea that a naturalistic environment could be the result of something like this. Darnit.

I had to spend near $1k on just two animals. So I know exactly how you feel but if you can contact that vet and ask them if they would be willing to help you get on a payment plan or they might have some type of a card that you can charge it on and make payments. If they truly say that you care about your animal and that you are going to pay them it should be a lot easier. But yes I had to soak my animals as well. It's definitely something that needs medical help for this diagnosis.


That is the one thing many people don't understand about the bioactive setup. Even having native species I can speak from experience it is imperative to only have captive insects to get them from high quality sellers and to make sure that you treat your plants and so on. If the frogs aren't quarantined then whenever they poop they will release parasites in their poop which will live in the soil and can even infect healthy frogs and also the cleanup crew could get infected. And this could infect the sick Frog even further. there are a lot of things to consider when having a bioactive setup. I think you have a very beautiful setup I'm just saying for anybody who reads this in the future to be aware of other problems that might occur like this.

Once your frog is treated it might be easier to change out the soil and research how you can clean the plants to rid them of any parasites they carried on them. I really hope it works out!

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[Lija]

Humidity is good... if you cant do vet, then all you could do it to try help yourself, but.... you really need prescription and you do need to know exactly what you are treating for. I dont know if Dr. Frye is still around, milano animal hospital, he used to accept poop samples shipped to him, test them and send you meds. I suggest you try to reach them, it would be less expensive if they still do it.
You should place a frog in quarantine for time being- kritter keeper with 3 sides covered, paper towels, a plant you could run under hot water, everything needs to be changed daily, plant washed underrunning very hot water.
Good luck with everything!