Whites tree frog bloated and hunched over?

[Larry Wardog]

I gotta stop you right there.
The best gut load for crickets is natural - carrots, oranges, lettice, and so on. There are a lot of commercially made gutload products, by different brands, each of them advertized as being the best, nothing special needed and so on. While this definately a convinience, by any means this is no better then natural feed and the claims that you dont need any products for dusting is just simply not true. Its sad actually that people believe these things and then we see so many cases where clients bring patients in, and starting conversation with “pet store people said” or “the package said”, etc.
Even buying dusting products its very important to follow exp dates, and usem them in moderation and appropriate ones. Say you cant use multivitamins every time.
Gutloaded crickets by any definition is this frogs problem, vet would be the best bet, but depending on a cause the prognosis could be sad.

That's actually proven to be false now. The Mazuri Gut Load actually was proven in studies to be the best food for insects. I used carrots and such but that didn't do anything for my animals. My toads especially were suffering because of not using the Mazuri. I have seen a dramatic difference myself using this. I was told this by an exotic vet that specializes in amphibians. You really do not need to dust using the Mazuri either it even says this on the package. My vet worked with Ripley's Aquarium, a zoo in Tennessee and so on. I'm not trying to sound aggressive I wouldnt mind discussing this in a civil manor but yes the Mazuri is better then carrots and such. I'd have to get a link to the study from her to prove it if you would like me to. I also was not told this by a pet store. Only an experienced vet.

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[Lija]

That's actually proven to be false now. The Mazuri Gut Load actually was proven in studies to be the best food for insects. I used carrots and such but that didn't do anything for my animals. My toads especially were suffering because of not using the Mazuri. I have seen a dramatic difference myself using this. I was told this by an exotic vet that specializes in amphibians. You really do not need to dust using the Mazuri either it even says this on the package. My vet worked with Ripley's Aquarium, a zoo in Tennessee and so on. I'm not trying to sound aggressive I wouldnt mind discussing this in a civil manor but yes the Mazuri is better then carrots and such. I'd have to get a link to the study from her to prove it if you would like me to. I also was not told this by a pet store. Only an experienced vet.

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I am a vet and I’m very happy that your toads are doing great! I would love to see the study you are reffering to if that is actual scientific study, by independant people not associated with manufacturer.

[Larry Wardog]

I am a vet and I’m very happy that your toads are doing great! I would love to see the study you are reffering to if that is actual scientific study, by independant people not associated with manufacturer.

Yes I believe she was referring to a study done independently. I had no idea this brand existed until I went to the vet. The funny thing is I studied a lot of Frank Indiviglio and his care tips. I actually reached out to him personally and he has helped me with my understanding and husbandry of the Native species specifically. He loves his toads that's for sure! That's also really good for me!

I will definitely try and get a link or something for you. I go back February 5th. Yes this food actually saved my animals. They were all in some way or another suffering with deficiencies and I was not skeptical of the food but I gave it a shot and I have noticed right now the animals that were declining made an 80% recovery.
What I mean is there color came back, they became more active and alert and they look like they did at their best.

The one way I never thought you could tell of deficiency in amphibians is the bone in their butt. Whenever the bone is not showing they are healthy and the animals that had the bone severely showing are the ones that made the dramatic recovery. It's only been a month coming up and I have animals that look unbelievably great. But with the plans that I have for my setup I need to have completely healthy frogs and toads. because if I'm going to abide by the state and different things I had to make sure that these were going to be the healthiest toads and frogs at least in my area.

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