New Toad

[John]

Also the american toads grow up to be 4inches? So how long till it be another inch bigger? Maybe 3 months? I have a 30g. When do you think I can upgrade it to that size? Seeing as its this young Iam assumming itll live up to 5-10years? Also my rooms temperature is 64 degrees. Is that bad?

Way to go with that wall of text. It hurts my brain. Paragraphs are useful. Anyhow -

• 4 inches, yes about that.
• inch bigger? It's not an exact science. I gave you a general guide already.
• I don't think you'll have to get a bigger terrarium.
• Age 5-10 years seems reasonable. Again, not an exact science.
• 64 is a little cool for optimal growth. I'd get it a bit warmer.

[Deku]

Way to go with that wall of text. It hurts my brain. Paragraphs are useful. Anyhow -

• 4 inches, yes about that.
• inch bigger? It's not an exact science. I gave you a general guide already.
• I don't think you'll have to get a bigger terrarium.
• Age 5-10 years seems reasonable. Again, not an exact science.
• 64 is a little cool for optimal growth. I'd get it a bit warmer.

Sorry. Iam using internet through my wii. So its hard to tell apart.... Its very complicated.


Anywho I made the temps up to 72. I am not getting a bigger terrarium. But Iam saying how long till I put the baby toad in the large terrarium? I want to monitor it.
Its why I said I wanted it to grow an inch or two.

[JimO]

The line down the back makes me think Oak Toad (Bufo quercicus), which are much smaller than an American Toad. They reach adult size at about 1-2 inches. Here's a photo.



And this link has some info on it: http://www.uga.edu/srelherp/anurans/bufque.htm

If your friend found it in NJ, it might be something else, since that's just north of its range.

[Deku]

The line down the back makes me think Oak Toad (Bufo quercicus), which are much smaller than an American Toad. They reach adult size at about 1-2 inches. Here's a photo.



And this link has some info on it: http://www.uga.edu/srelherp/anurans/bufque.htm

If your friend found it in NJ, it might be something else, since that's just north of its range.

I measured the toad its actually half an inch. Also I doubt its an oak toad. I mean it has that line. But alot of american toads have that line too. Mine has a lighter color and has red spots with black circles. Id take a picture of it but my camera is broken and my friends computer is getting fixed so I cant randomly pop in with a picture. But there was another post I made called "where can I buy toads?" a fellow member posted a picture of his california toads. There were four toads in the picture. It looks exactly like that toad but smaller. No I dont live in cali. I live in nj. If it was an oak toad Id be happy. But I am thinking if it is a 30g might be toooo big for an oak toad. I dont know. I dont know if itd use all the space. I dont want to put it in the big tank until its atleast 2inches so it doesnt get lost in the tank and Iam like trying to find it so "I can feed it. You know?

[Greatballzofire]

Some of my California toads this April when I gathered them; little guys!
Your toad sounds like a hatchling from this summer, being as it is very small. Mine hatched last year and overwintered, coming out in the spring. They grew really fast and are almost adult size now. I just feed them all the crickets and other bugs they want, and occasionally live mouse pinkies.

American toads do look a lot like California toads, what with the stripe down the back, but American toads have a big vocal sac to make a trilling call , whereas California toads don't, they make a little chirping sound. So when your toadlet grows up if it is a male it will have the vocal sac.

If you go back to where your friend found this toadlet you will likely find many more.

Also, American toads have cranial crests, whereas California toads don't.

[Deku]

Some of my California toads this April when I gathered them; little guys!
Your toad sounds like a hatchling from this summer, being as it is very small. Mine hatched last year and overwintered, coming out in the spring. They grew really fast and are almost adult size now. I just feed them all the crickets and other bugs they want, and occasionally live mouse pinkies.

American toads do look a lot like California toads, what with the stripe down the back, but American toads have a big vocal sac to make a trilling call , whereas California toads don't, they make a little chirping sound. So when your toadlet grows up if it is a male it will have the vocal sac.

If you go back to where your friend found this toadlet you will likely find many more.

Mine looks like those except it has black rings on the reds and it has less red dots. Only 5 actually. Its also lighter in color. It looks light tan I guess. I leave the toad in with the crickets. I give the crickets a hiding hole and food and water. So the crickets do not bother the toad. I think the toad ate twice or trice. Iam going to leave the food for it to hunt. My friend says its really hard for him to find any. Iam bugging him to help me find some. :P I want to have a trio. so I only need two more. Hopefully it grows quicker so I can stop having it in this small container.
I guess Iam treating it like a sling. Because the last time I had a baby toad it couldnt find the food because the crickets would hide. So end up starving to death. Iam hoping I can get it on worms as soon as it grows a little bigger. I dislike feeding crickets. Maybe Ill breed earthworms? Well the smaller kind. I could never find the red wrigglers. I tried to find them a long time ago and never had success. I THINK it can take on a pheonix worm. Pheonix worms are very small. Id like to breed pheonix worms, red wrigglers, goliath worms, grasshoppers(I dont know I guess I prefer them over crickets? they are more colorful so the toad can easily find it.),moths, etc. I hear wax worms turn into moths. Id like to know how big the moths are and how I can breed them or if there is a moth thats easier to breed. I was wondering if when I start setting up the terrarium if I can make a large pool on the front side and put in minnows in it? I wonder if the toads would use it? Maybe not. It sure would look nice as a set up though. :P Heck I could even plop in some aquatic snails and shrimp. But i dont know if this would be suitable environment.Ps. I tried doing something crazy. Like I put in a youtube video of american toad call. Its the one that says "American toad in pennsylvania" I think. its the one where the toad is in the water its during midday. I can tell because of how bright it looked. Anywho. I put it on and the toad doesnt call but it just looks towards the screen. It was worth a shot. This is how I got most of my frogs to call. :P I did it to my whites, fbt, claweds, etc. They all called back.

[Greatballzofire]

A thing you can try feeding it is termites. Termites can be found under damp wood. They look like small whitish ants. You can put them in a shallow dish the toadlet can get into. I fed termites to a tiny fence lizard once before I had crickets.