New Toad

[Deku]

So yesterday my friend found a 1inched american toad. It has a white line running back. Tan body. Four red dots which in the outside have a black circle/line running along them. Its throat is white but the lower part is darkly blotched. I plopped in some pin head crickets. I THINK he ate some of them because he took a dump in a corner. He/she is currently in a cricket keeper because its very small I dont want to put it in a large terrarium yet. My friend did this trade with me so now I have a 30gallon aquarium with a fluval 305 and a heater and some lights and other equipment. So Iam thinking of this 30gallon being a toad tank? Iam going to ask him if he can find me two more toads. I already have the dish and dirt. Currently Iam waiting on my parents approval(the toad terrarium is underneath my turtle tank. Meaning its in the stand. So its safe and sound seeing as toads like dark areas). It likes to climb to the upper area. Because I put in some tubes for the crickets to hide and come out whenever.

Is there anything Iam missing? Oh and I wanted to know. Is there a way to make the toad grow to atleast 2inches or 3inches faster? My friends pacman grew within the month he got him. So I was wondering if my toad could grow alittle faster so I can put him in the 30gallon asap. Oh I have him on paper towels for bedding temporarly. I also used an old conditioner cap(fish) with paper towel folded inside and I poured water inside. I used amquel.

[John]

Keep the toad warm, feed it well and make sure to supplement well. It should be able to reach adult size in 6-9 months under the right conditions.

[Deku]

Keep the toad warm, feed it well and make sure to supplement well. It should be able to reach adult size in 6-9 months under the right conditions.

Nice I think it ate. Because I just found two more droppings. I made a new food for the crickets. I got some of my reptomin, this tortoise pellet food and wardleys turtle food and I crushed them into powder. Some of the crickets are eating it up right now. Turtle food contains alot of calcium and proteins. Tortoise foods contains alot of fiber. I think it should be healthy. Ima mix it tommorrow with some fish food powder and then we're in business! I noticed the crickets get waterloged in even moist paper towel. :/ Kinda annoying to know. Also the american toads grow up to be 4inches? So how long till it be another inch bigger? Maybe 3 months? I have a 30g. When do you think I can upgrade it to that size? Seeing as its this young Iam assumming itll live up to 5-10years? Also my rooms temperature is 64 degrees. Is that bad? Iam thinking id use an undertank heater in the 30gor another form of heat because heat lamps are annoying to set up. I was thinking in the bottom of the tank id set up some paper towels so if it burries it doesnt touch the glass. I remember having these along time ago. For some wild caught bunch they were quite open. Like first week they hide. But after that they stayed out in the open pretty much all the time.

[John]

Also the american toads grow up to be 4inches? So how long till it be another inch bigger? Maybe 3 months? I have a 30g. When do you think I can upgrade it to that size? Seeing as its this young Iam assumming itll live up to 5-10years? Also my rooms temperature is 64 degrees. Is that bad?

Way to go with that wall of text. It hurts my brain. Paragraphs are useful. Anyhow -

• 4 inches, yes about that.
• inch bigger? It's not an exact science. I gave you a general guide already.
• I don't think you'll have to get a bigger terrarium.
• Age 5-10 years seems reasonable. Again, not an exact science.
• 64 is a little cool for optimal growth. I'd get it a bit warmer.

[Deku]

Way to go with that wall of text. It hurts my brain. Paragraphs are useful. Anyhow -

• 4 inches, yes about that.
• inch bigger? It's not an exact science. I gave you a general guide already.
• I don't think you'll have to get a bigger terrarium.
• Age 5-10 years seems reasonable. Again, not an exact science.
• 64 is a little cool for optimal growth. I'd get it a bit warmer.

Sorry. Iam using internet through my wii. So its hard to tell apart.... Its very complicated.


Anywho I made the temps up to 72. I am not getting a bigger terrarium. But Iam saying how long till I put the baby toad in the large terrarium? I want to monitor it.
Its why I said I wanted it to grow an inch or two.

[JimO]

The line down the back makes me think Oak Toad (Bufo quercicus), which are much smaller than an American Toad. They reach adult size at about 1-2 inches. Here's a photo.



And this link has some info on it: http://www.uga.edu/srelherp/anurans/bufque.htm

If your friend found it in NJ, it might be something else, since that's just north of its range.

[Deku]

The line down the back makes me think Oak Toad (Bufo quercicus), which are much smaller than an American Toad. They reach adult size at about 1-2 inches. Here's a photo.



And this link has some info on it: http://www.uga.edu/srelherp/anurans/bufque.htm

If your friend found it in NJ, it might be something else, since that's just north of its range.

I measured the toad its actually half an inch. Also I doubt its an oak toad. I mean it has that line. But alot of american toads have that line too. Mine has a lighter color and has red spots with black circles. Id take a picture of it but my camera is broken and my friends computer is getting fixed so I cant randomly pop in with a picture. But there was another post I made called "where can I buy toads?" a fellow member posted a picture of his california toads. There were four toads in the picture. It looks exactly like that toad but smaller. No I dont live in cali. I live in nj. If it was an oak toad Id be happy. But I am thinking if it is a 30g might be toooo big for an oak toad. I dont know. I dont know if itd use all the space. I dont want to put it in the big tank until its atleast 2inches so it doesnt get lost in the tank and Iam like trying to find it so "I can feed it. You know?

[Greatballzofire]

Some of my California toads this April when I gathered them; little guys!
Your toad sounds like a hatchling from this summer, being as it is very small. Mine hatched last year and overwintered, coming out in the spring. They grew really fast and are almost adult size now. I just feed them all the crickets and other bugs they want, and occasionally live mouse pinkies.

American toads do look a lot like California toads, what with the stripe down the back, but American toads have a big vocal sac to make a trilling call , whereas California toads don't, they make a little chirping sound. So when your toadlet grows up if it is a male it will have the vocal sac.

If you go back to where your friend found this toadlet you will likely find many more.

Also, American toads have cranial crests, whereas California toads don't.

[Deku]

Some of my California toads this April when I gathered them; little guys!
Your toad sounds like a hatchling from this summer, being as it is very small. Mine hatched last year and overwintered, coming out in the spring. They grew really fast and are almost adult size now. I just feed them all the crickets and other bugs they want, and occasionally live mouse pinkies.

American toads do look a lot like California toads, what with the stripe down the back, but American toads have a big vocal sac to make a trilling call , whereas California toads don't, they make a little chirping sound. So when your toadlet grows up if it is a male it will have the vocal sac.

If you go back to where your friend found this toadlet you will likely find many more.

Mine looks like those except it has black rings on the reds and it has less red dots. Only 5 actually. Its also lighter in color. It looks light tan I guess. I leave the toad in with the crickets. I give the crickets a hiding hole and food and water. So the crickets do not bother the toad. I think the toad ate twice or trice. Iam going to leave the food for it to hunt. My friend says its really hard for him to find any. Iam bugging him to help me find some. :P I want to have a trio. so I only need two more. Hopefully it grows quicker so I can stop having it in this small container.
I guess Iam treating it like a sling. Because the last time I had a baby toad it couldnt find the food because the crickets would hide. So end up starving to death. Iam hoping I can get it on worms as soon as it grows a little bigger. I dislike feeding crickets. Maybe Ill breed earthworms? Well the smaller kind. I could never find the red wrigglers. I tried to find them a long time ago and never had success. I THINK it can take on a pheonix worm. Pheonix worms are very small. Id like to breed pheonix worms, red wrigglers, goliath worms, grasshoppers(I dont know I guess I prefer them over crickets? they are more colorful so the toad can easily find it.),moths, etc. I hear wax worms turn into moths. Id like to know how big the moths are and how I can breed them or if there is a moth thats easier to breed. I was wondering if when I start setting up the terrarium if I can make a large pool on the front side and put in minnows in it? I wonder if the toads would use it? Maybe not. It sure would look nice as a set up though. :P Heck I could even plop in some aquatic snails and shrimp. But i dont know if this would be suitable environment.Ps. I tried doing something crazy. Like I put in a youtube video of american toad call. Its the one that says "American toad in pennsylvania" I think. its the one where the toad is in the water its during midday. I can tell because of how bright it looked. Anywho. I put it on and the toad doesnt call but it just looks towards the screen. It was worth a shot. This is how I got most of my frogs to call. :P I did it to my whites, fbt, claweds, etc. They all called back.

[Greatballzofire]

A thing you can try feeding it is termites. Termites can be found under damp wood. They look like small whitish ants. You can put them in a shallow dish the toadlet can get into. I fed termites to a tiny fence lizard once before I had crickets.

[Deku]

A thing you can try feeding it is termites. Termites can be found under damp wood. They look like small whitish ants. You can put them in a shallow dish the toadlet can get into. I fed termites to a tiny fence lizard once before I had crickets.

I will try that. My toad currently eats pinhead crickets. I remember someone saying I could feed toads weavils. Id like to know if there is an online store that has pretty much any type of feeder insect/invertebrate for a good price?

[JimO]

You can also try small moths, earthworms, meal worms, and even house flies. I have a small (1-inch) Southern Toad that eats anything it can catch that fits it its mouth.

[Deku]

You can also try small moths, earthworms, meal worms, and even house flies. I have a small (1-inch) Southern Toad that eats anything it can catch that fits it its mouth.

House flies? I thought they'd be bad. Don't house flies carry diseases? Sides they actually spray around my house and in it. Its why Ived been holding off any breeding of anything. When I move to the basement I will buy what they call "critter keepers" and raise the insects in there. Iam thinking of breeding the wax worm moths in there. Actually Iam going to transfer the moths to a jar once they start to mutate into moths. :P Id breed roaches but I think my parents may go against that and say thats the last straw. :P
I was thinking Id study grasshoppers and find places that sells them alive. When I do id breed them. Again I like hoppers more than crickets.