New Pacman-- Limey, setup critique, and help.

[Epedemik]

No red wrigglers aw different and most frogs hate the way they taste. Both of my pacs prefer Canadian night crawlers as they tend to be fatter and more juicy. My frog is fat in the photo because he had just eaten a 4” worm Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ok good deal. I will get some night crawlers and some earth worms today. See which he likes the best.

[Epedemik]

5 days since Limey's last feeding of 3 butter worms.
Tried to feed today. I am still having to force the food into his mouth IF he opens up. This time I got a butter worm in and he spit it out 3 times. I also got an earth worm in and he spit it out once and just let it crawl out the second time.
Its been almost 4 weeks and he should be acclimated to his environment and temps.
Everything I have read suggest baby pacmans should eat either daily or at least 2-3 times a week depending on size of meal.

I just cant get this little guy to eat much. I am sure he has slowed his metabolism for winter. I don't see any signs of impaction or any other issues. Obvious ones anyways.

So is this ok can a baby pacman keep up this pace and be ok? 1 meal every 7-10 days??
He has been with my almost 4 weeks. I understand there still is the possibility of him getting acclimated to everything. So when do I say enough is enough and make him eat more often? Or should I just let his will to live take its course? offer food and if eats he eats or if he doesn't he doesn't?

[Epedemik]

Well 48 hrs after his last feeding attempt with an attempt at a honey bath and an pedialite bath. Limey died.

To the TWO people who commented with tips/advice/suggestions THANK YOU VERY MUCH. (Bynny Ribbit and Misschic13)

For the 300+ views and no comments,.........(tempting to be very vulgar).
This lowers my opinion of this forum. Not sure if I will be back here on my next Herp attempt.
My very first attempt at keeping an amphibian or keeping any Herp for that matter. I am disappointed in the assistance I attempted to receive here.
Think I will register on dendro board or find another forum.

Sorry if this offends some of the more active members here. 2 comments out 300+ views over two weeks is unacceptable to me.
Once again, thank you BynnyRibbit and Misschic13

[Bynny Ribbit]

I'm so sorry to hear Limey didn't make it. Also sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. It seems like there may have been an unseen problem with him which gave him no appetite. Your care was very good and I feel it may have happened despite all your effort. The initial stress could have made him sick or he could have come with it, it's always difficult to say in these situations. My friend's baby pacman didn't eat for nearly a month when she first got him and now he is thriving, so you never know what can happen. Only advice I can offer is to reconsider buying another Pacman from the same breeder and look around for reviews before buying from a certain source.

I wouldn't take it to heart about people not commenting. This forum is not as active as it once was, never seems to be more than 5 members on at a time. And the members who do come on, not all of them own or have a knowledge of certain frogs, so they wouldn't be helpful in advising about them. You can also visit these forums without a membership which is actually how I started out; you can look all you want but you can't comment (part of the reason I registered), so I have a feeling your thread simply had many silent spectators. Part of it could be your thread wasn't in the general Pacman area, too...so there's a lot of factors going into why only Misschic13 and I commented.

Another reason I joined and started responding to many threads was to encourage more discussion and to try and get this place more active again. I hope you aren't too discouraged, it was good of you to catalogue your journey with Limey and it may help many more people who only lurk on the forums for information.

[Epedemik]

I'm so sorry to hear Limey didn't make it. Also sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. It seems like there may have been an unseen problem with him which gave him no appetite. Your care was very good and I feel it may have happened despite all your effort. The initial stress could have made him sick or he could have come with it, it's always difficult to say in these situations. My friend's baby pacman didn't eat for nearly a month when she first got him and now he is thriving, so you never know what can happen. Only advice I can offer is to reconsider buying another Pacman from the same breeder and look around for reviews before buying from a certain source.

I wouldn't take it to heart about people not commenting. This forum is not as active as it once was, never seems to be more than 5 members on at a time. And the members who do come on, not all of them own or have a knowledge of certain frogs, so they wouldn't be helpful in advising about them. You can also visit these forums without a membership which is actually how I started out; you can look all you want but you can't comment (part of the reason I registered), so I have a feeling your thread simply had many silent spectators. Part of it could be your thread wasn't in the general Pacman area, too...so there's a lot of factors going into why only Misschic13 and I commented.

Another reason I joined and started responding to many threads was to encourage more discussion and to try and get this place more active again. I hope you aren't too discouraged, it was good of you to catalogue your journey with Limey and it may help many more people who only lurk on the forums for information.

Thank you for the information. I was a little irritated that he didn't make it. Maybe I vented in the wrong place.

I did not realize you did not need to register to view this forum. That makes a lot more sense as far as the view to comment ratio.

When I think back I am pretty sure he might have been impacted before I got him. I never saw poop. Thought I did in his water bowl. He was so small I assumed his poop would be tiny. Apparently they poop a pretty good amount even as babies. So I should have been able to definitely see it. I think that if I would have realized this earlier I could have started honey baths sooner and/or pedialite baths. I know this may or may not have made a difference.
I will not abandon this forum just yet.

I will start a new journey with my new buddy Rosco. He is a perty green cranwelli. He is about 2 months old. I am hoping he will be easier for me since he has had a good start so far. He is much fatter, more lively, and seems to be very healthy. He can make 2 jumps and be all the way across my 12x12.

I will make a new thread with ne updated pictures. I will put the new thread in the proper Pacman section.

[Bynny Ribbit]

Thank you for the information. I was a little irritated that he didn't make it. Maybe I vented in the wrong place.

I did not realize you did not need to register to view this forum. That makes a lot more sense as far as the view to comment ratio.

When I think back I am pretty sure he might have been impacted before I got him. I never saw poop. Thought I did in his water bowl. He was so small I assumed his poop would be tiny. Apparently they poop a pretty good amount even as babies. So I should have been able to definitely see it. I think that if I would have realized this earlier I could have started honey baths sooner and/or pedialite baths. I know this may or may not have made a difference.
I will not abandon this forum just yet.

I will start a new journey with my new buddy Rosco. He is a perty green cranwelli. He is about 2 months old. I am hoping he will be easier for me since he has had a good start so far. He is much fatter, more lively, and seems to be very healthy. He can make 2 jumps and be all the way across my 12x12.

I will make a new thread with ne updated pictures. I will put the new thread in the proper Pacman section.

It's a very understandable reaction. Losing a pet when you put so much care into it is heartbreaking.

Their poops can be surprisingly large, so that may have been the case if you weren't 100% sure about seeing any.

It's good to read you are having a good start with Rosco. You'll have to keep us updated on his progress. Best of luck!