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    Your temperatures are good. I'd get rid of the under tank heater though. They are burrowers, and the UTH can cause burns if they burrow down to it and sit there. I know you would think they'd move if they were getting burnt, but I have heard of it happening.

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    I agree with everyone... I KNow the moss can give them impacation if they eat it.. So far i have NEVER seen my frog try and eat any.. he rarely Gets into his Water bowl, (which is Dont know if thats normal for a Cranny or even a pacman) the only bad thing I have Found about coco Fiber is that I got the stuff in the bag and Didnt Wet it right, so i gotta Spray it EVERY day, Which leads to my point about the Moss, it is SUCH a hassel and when I change the soil and stuff in the middle of this month.. Im taking it out, you Gotta Spray the moss so much more than the Soil.. i think im just going to add Some to the Sides and back that way it will keep up moisture be out of his Way and Just to help ensure the difference between Dry and wet.

    Lucas (my Guy) Is a cranny but he is just like everyone says, he Buries Himself for like 2-4 days, and When He uncovers the Top of himself, He Will lay there Because he Knows As Soon as I spot him, ill feed him.. so he usually stays in one Spot.. If He is REALLY Hungry, he Will take the crickets and worms From the Forceps.. But usually He likes to see them Scurry around.. So i usually Drop them infront of him and have them run infront of his mouth and he Takes them. Now I dont see him poop, i guess Cuz Hes Buried All the time, But He has a VERY Healthy Appetite so Im not worried.. I dig Around to Fluff up his Coco Bedding and See Something that look like Poop so yeah.

    I Dont know if any of this is relevant though but im a new paccy owner so.. im giving you the best I could. o.O

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoofix View Post
    I agree with everyone... I KNow the moss can give them impacation if they eat it.. So far i have NEVER seen my frog try and eat any.. he rarely Gets into his Water bowl, (which is Dont know if thats normal for a Cranny or even a pacman) the only bad thing I have Found about coco Fiber is that I got the stuff in the bag and Didnt Wet it right, so i gotta Spray it EVERY day, Which leads to my point about the Moss, it is SUCH a hassel and when I change the soil and stuff in the middle of this month.. Im taking it out, you Gotta Spray the moss so much more than the Soil.. i think im just going to add Some to the Sides and back that way it will keep up moisture be out of his Way and Just to help ensure the difference between Dry and wet.

    Lucas (my Guy) Is a cranny but he is just like everyone says, he Buries Himself for like 2-4 days, and When He uncovers the Top of himself, He Will lay there Because he Knows As Soon as I spot him, ill feed him.. so he usually stays in one Spot.. If He is REALLY Hungry, he Will take the crickets and worms From the Forceps.. But usually He likes to see them Scurry around.. So i usually Drop them infront of him and have them run infront of his mouth and he Takes them. Now I dont see him poop, i guess Cuz Hes Buried All the time, But He has a VERY Healthy Appetite so Im not worried.. I dig Around to Fluff up his Coco Bedding and See Something that look like Poop so yeah.

    I Dont know if any of this is relevant though but im a new paccy owner so.. im giving you the best I could. o.O
    It is not that your frog will attempt to eat any, it is that he may accidentally get a mouth full while feeding, even if you tong feed it is still a possibility. That being said some types of moss are safer than others. I would never use sphangum it is long and does not really take root into anything. In addition like you said moss is not easy to keep alive and is a little over kill for a horned frog. But if you really want to make a 2ft by 1ft plot of rain forest you could make a dart frogesque tank for him, I have actually seen it done but in my opinion it will just be torn up by the frog as they love to burrow. It just depends on if you are willing to go through the trouble and expense of setting it up. They are not cheap and are definitely not something you would just want to half do.

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    Excellent, thanks so much for the great responses and feedback.

    Just to clear some stuff up, the under tank heater is under a wooden base under the glass tank, so there is a good centimeter separating him from the heating pad and the hottest it gets directly on top of the heating pad is 30 degrees C.

    I am going to remove the sphagnum moss which was only sitting in one corner of the tank and replace this with some leaf litter.

    Last night he fed in front of me and I found one of his massive stools in the cage as well. One thing I did notice though after he defecated he seemed a very noticeable 'sunken' look around the hips, is this a sign that I should up his food intake drastically or is this a normal response after defecation?

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    It's hard to draw any conclusions from that "sunken" look. However, young tropical frogs should eat daily, so keep trying to make him into a fatty!
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    My little guy eats every day or two, and when he does his business I definitely notice a change in his appearance. Sometimes he drops a load that looks a third of his size, so he does look a tad "deflated".

    When my bigger/fatter frogs go, they don't show it near as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Boyardee View Post
    My little guy eats every day or two, and when he does his business I definitely notice a change in his appearance. Sometimes he drops a load that looks a third of his size, so he does look a tad "deflated".

    When my bigger/fatter frogs go, they don't show it near as much.

    Yeah!!! That's spot on with the description, almost loos deflated after dropping a stool.

    One daft question though, how do I ensure that he's well fed if he stays burrowed 2 - 4 days at a time?? Should I dig him out and feed him in a tub, or should I just let the crickets run around until he grabs them?

    Thanks in advance.

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