Pixie passed way !

[monster]

Ya change the water like you would normally do, what I mean by don’t stress him is after he,s in the enclosure just leave him be. Don’t be hanging around and checking on him every half hour, and if he doesn’t want to eat for the first few days don’t stress and think you have to keep trying till does eat. Not saying this is what you will do but this what people mean by don’t stress the frog out. Some people try to keep them in just water but it’s not good for there back legs, after a while they end up haveing serious issues with the legs. I even seen on an old thread That a breeder from the US even said that it isn’t recommended to keep them that way.

[froghub]

Okay so, Pixie used to hang a lot in the water. Not sure why, but he went to the pool a lot.
Maybe cause the guys kept them in water. Who knows.
Maybe the legs not working and being red were a cause from that.
Lets see this ones. At least i'm sure they arrived no longer than one week ago. I went for cricket and there were 0 pacman frogs last week. Now they have at least 20. I hope he'll do better.
Thanks Monster i'll keep you informed when i get the big guy tomorrow.
About the hot and cold sides, should i get a mini fan in the cool side maybe?
Cause i feel the diference of 1,2°C is not a lot for those guys.
About the hidding spot is in the hot side, and the pool is in the cold side this time.
Ps: When you spray the terrarium, do you spray the frog himself normally or just the substrate? I try to avoid the frog, but not sure of this.

[monster]

If you put a fan you may lose heat on the warm side to, and you will fight with humidity I would think. When you spray the tank don't spray him directly because he will more then likely not like that very much. When spraying you don't even need to spray the substrate everytime, just if it feels or is starting to look dry. I usually just spray the plants and the walls and the substrate every couple days. Towards the end of the month you may have to spray the ground a little more often but that's also a good sign its time for a substrate change. If you spray the ground everytime you mist you will end up with soaking wet substrate within no time at all. Remember you just want the substrate damp not dripping wet.

[froghub]

Alright, got the idea i guess he'll have to borrow, one side is at 81F and the other 79F/78F the plastic box retains a lot of heat.
For the treated water, how do you guys do? I usually treat a bottle with reptisafe and then stock it for one month or so. Is it fine to do?
I know i'm kinda of a pain in the *** but i need to have those technical questions answered
How many frogs do you have in total btw? :O
Thanks Monster.

[monster]

If you can get that warm side up another degree or 2 that would be good but 81f isn't bad so if you cant don't stress, it should be good enough. The reptisafe works almost instantly, I wait about ten minutes before it adding to the substrate and I don't think you even have to wait that long. I just like to be sure when it comes to water. I have 4 frogs all Horned frogs at the moment, I have a male Green Cranwelli and a female Albino Cranwelli and a male and female Ornate. My female Cranwelli is the biggest and she's just a little bigger then 4 3/4 inches and she is mean and grumpy. I will add another 2 to my collection if I can find the ones I want and then that's it, as I mentioned before they are 2 of the rarer kinds so I may be waiting awhile but I specifically want those and nothing else. And don't worry about the questions your not a pain at all, that's what the forum is here for.

[froghub]

I surely can but the thing is i've 3 thermometers saying that there's 83F when the new thermostat i got now is 81F. So i don't kinda know which one is lying here, i'm testing it out with another thermometer tomorrow ahahah and the two ones which have the right temperatures win.
I guess the thermostat, but tomorrow will check before bringing the new guy home.
The problem with reptisafe is the quantity for a little quantity of water as in the pool. I usually add more than supposed then i stock a bottle and change it, cause my pool takes about
250ml and i can't out the exact two drops in there, and i find it safer anyway, do you believe that reptisafe stops working after a while, or when the water is dechlorinated it stays that way?
Thanks again

[monster]

If you got a good brand thermostat I would trust the thermostat, especially if your taking the readings from the same spot were its saying 83f. But 83 isn't bad either but I do think the thermostat is correct, I find thermometers are usually always off by a degree or too. I use zoo med hygrotherms for all my tanks and I trust them a lot so to be honest I don't even keep thermometers in my tanks, I have one that I will throw in there everyone once in awhile just to see the difference and its usually always off by a degree or 2 and I also have an infrared that I check with every once in awhile but that's more for my bearded dragon. To be honest the ones I find the most accurate if you really want to see is one of those glass ones you use for fish tanks, place it right beside the probe to the thermostat and that will tell you for sure, I used to have one and it was always the exact as the thermostat but I dropped it and it broke. And you don't want to keep it in there its just more to check every once in awhile to see if your thermostat is still working up to par. For the reptisafe I have a huge jug of it that I just refill my small bottle with and I have it for over a year now and it seems to still be working because my frogs are good and healthy. And when the water is declorinated yes it would stay that way unless you added something into yourself.

[froghub]

Okay, you were right about trusting the thermostat too. Anyway i've a laser one that is comming, so i'll check that out too.
Soooooo new guy is home.
He ate three crickets and a lot of ecoearth, he was chasing four more but no joy, only got ecoearth after the first three.
So two medium and one big one, not sure if its enought for a juvenile. Anyway he gave up and burrowed deep into the substrate.
I helped with the tongs for the big one, he was hungry and not afraid, after i tried again but he kinda backed up and went chasing another one but only ecoearth.
Maybe i try some dubias since they're bigger then crickets?
Now i guess i'll try again after tomorrow ?
I'll try to make the ecoearth more compressed so he doesn't eat all of it at least in the area i put the crickets in lol.
I wasnt able to know when he popped, but he didnt seem to have a lot in his stomach, now he's much rounder as he should be.
Now eating a little bit of ecoearth should not be a problem for a juvenile as long as he poops right?
And he disappear under the substrate, he'll come back up on its own when is hungry i hope!
This enclosure sees about the right size for now, but when should i put him in the big one?
Thanks guys

[monster]

Hey glad to hear this guy doing better already, if he took one from the tongs next time you feed I wouldn't just let the crickets go and try to feed them by the tongs. All though eco earth can be passed you don't want him eating to much of it, you don't want him to become impacted from it and you don't want him filling up on eco earth and then not wanting to eat his bugs. Even though eco earth is made to be able to pass sometimes if they eat large amounts it will give him a mild impaction, but nothing a good old honey bath cant take care of. I would try the roaches, from what I have heard they are better then crickets nutrition wise. And if he's a juvenile I would get some nightcrawlers ( big worms) and feed him those, if they are really long you can cut them in half. Once you feed nightcrawlers you will notice his growth rate will really speed up. He should come back up on his own, if he doesn't for a day or 2 I wouldn't worry to much because this is his way of making himself feel secure. After lets say 2 days if he doesn't then I would unbury him to check on him. Once you know he's doing ok and he's grown abit you should be able to put him in his permanent home, I would give a month tops. If he keeps eating he will grow a lot within a month. A little trick when tong feeding is to rub the food item under his bottom lip, this triggers there feeding response most the time and once he's eaten one they usually keep going.

[monster]

I would give it a quick rinse just to be safe, I have never used the product but is always better to be safe then sorry. When I do a total disinfect of my tanks I use zoo med wipeout, and even though it states that you just spray it on then wipe it out I still do quick rinse just in case I missed some.

[froghub]

I would give it a quick rinse just to be safe, I have never used the product but is always better to be safe then sorry. When I do a total disinfect of my tanks I use zoo med wipeout, and even though it states that you just spray it on then wipe it out I still do quick rinse just in case I missed some.

Thanks for the answer Monster. Yeah sure a quick rinse just to be sure i agree, but for example i'm kinda of affraid of zoomed wipeout cause by what i can see, is not that safe, you've to actually wipe it all up or rinse it by what i've read, but the chlorhexidine is actually used by us to clean the wounds(yeah i went and i saw one spray that i use often and i didn't even know it was this stuff cause it has a brand name instead lol anyway it doesn't burn at all and is very effective in wounds i.e) and we used for cats and dogs, out of all i guess this would be a good way out of ammonia or chlorine for me and actually i was reading, i'm not sure what is inside of wipeout by zoomed, but it mentions chlorine("dimethyl benzyl ammonium chloride" for what i understand it has both stuffs we're affraid of inside ammonia and chloride, but i'm not sure, just looking at the names no idea if it is in a way that can't hurt the animal or whatever) does it have a smell Monster?
Does any of you use isopropyl alchool? It evaporates and it should kill bacteria, plus it's cheap?
Thanks guys