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    Hey sorry for your loss. He was still a baby so I really don’t think it was anything you did, he could have been ill when you purchased him and this may have been why he was reluctant to eat. Or it could have been just bad genetics if that’s the proper word. If you end up getting another I would advise to have the tank setup and the heat and humidity in check before bringing it home. They need a couple of days usually with no interaction to settle in so it’s always good to have the setup running already so he can be left alone. Not saying this was the reason he passed but if frog is already ill the added stress of fiddling around in his enclosure will stress him and when they get stressed it lowers there immune system big time, this lets what ever he sick with take over him faster. Again sorry for the loss.
    Thanks Monster,
    I already have the new terrarium set properly; I'm thinking of getting a new one, yet not sure if i should buy from the same shop. They have a lot now. What should i look before buying the frog monster?
    Another thing, can it be the size of the crickets? Althought he seems to eat them well, they might be too large?
    But i guess that would not kill him. I would believe he was already sick and he didn't eat because of it...
    I'm thinking of getting an Ornata next.
    It's kinda of sad cause the little bugger was doing better and eating already. And i kinda feel i did something wrong. Poor guy.

    PS: since i'm not getting an albino this time, should i get a uvb lamp or not?

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    Look for a frog that looks alert and doesn't have shed or anything stuck to him. I would ask to hold the frog, if it doesn't try to get away from you and just sits there that could be a sign theres something wrong. If the frog is just sitting in the water bowl I would ask if this is normal for the frog also, if it sits in the bowl all the time this would also be a indicator that it is sick. I would ask them to feed the frog for you to see how he reacts to the food, again if it doesn't at least catch his attention I wouldn't purchase it, when these frogs are babies they have one thing on there mind and that is food. I would also ask were they purchase the frogs from and do some googling to see if you can get any feed back on the seller/breeder.
    The crickets were pretty big for the frog but I don't think that is what made him pass, if he was pooping them he was digesting them and you were giving days off inbetween feedings. Generally the rule with feeders is no thicker then the distance between his eyes and no longer then half the body length, this is really good to follow when they are babies and juveniles to be safe. Usually when they are adults they can handle something a little bigger, people feed fuzzies and they can take them no problem.
    For the uvb it wont hurt them but it isn't needed, these frogs are adjusted to calcium metabolism with out uvb and in the wild when the sun comes out they pretty much burrow down or sit under leaves etc. and this what the vitamins are for. A good vitamin to get is Repashy calcium plus, it has all the vitamins you need in one. But again Uvb will not kill them and could have some benefits.

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    And just in case you didn't know, when buying an Ornata make sure to look and see if it has false eye spots. These are 2 little black dots on the back of each eye, this is garunteed way to tell if it is one.

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    Hey, sorry about your loss, it is always very difficult to lose a loved one, including animals. I do think he was being cared for properly if that's any condolence. If you did get it from a pet-store, it likely did have something before you acquired it, and there was nothing to be done about that really. Again, sorry for your loss, we will be here to help you whenever you get your next frog species! (I myself am considering an Ornate horned frog, so great minds think alike )

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    Thanks for the kind words guys!
    I'll be looking for the ornata after tomorrow. New terrarium is ready, but i'll get another plastic container cause i feel that one was Pixies, i will trow it away.
    New terrarium:
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    It's an 18x18x18.

    Btw i was changing the substrat every week with pixies, and cleaning the plastic box each time, either with bleach or ammonia. For sure i rinse it very well after. Do you guys think it's better to get some reptile safe cleaner?
    I understand that the red legs are like bacteria and stuff, but i cleaned the guy often so i guess he arrived like that. Btw i cleaned is plastic container but the terrarium itself, since it had no substrate i did not clean it for a while, maybe i did rinse it two times in two months. But i guess this could not be the cause.
    Maybe he already arrived like that and thats why he didnt eat.

    Ps: I use ecoearth, lets say if i make one brick and store it for a month, is it considered clean of bacteria if it's dry? Cause usually the stuff don't dry quickly, and i kinda don't want the substrat to be water.

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    All my guys have pinkish legs from time to time from rubbing against the glass when they burrow or from moving across the substrate. When my first one ever passed from edema I remember her legs and belly went redder then usual, I don't think your frog had redleg. For the cleaning I will be honest and others may disagree but I only do a major disinfect about once every 3 months, before that I just do a super hot rinse and that's it. If your frog isn't sick and your changing out the substrate once a month or every 3 weeks you shouldn't have a bunch of bacteria living in there. A really good product is Zoo Med Wipeout, this is what I use to disinfect. For the substrate being wet, your supposed to squeeze out most the water so there is really no reason to leave it out to totally dry. A good rule is you want the substrate to clump in your hand when squeezed but not dripping water, this is what they need and it helps with the humidity.

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    All my guys have pinkish legs from time to time from rubbing against the glass when they burrow or from moving across the substrate. When my first one ever passed from edema I remember her legs and belly went redder then usual, I don't think your frog had redleg. For the cleaning I will be honest and others may disagree but I only do a major disinfect about once every 3 months, before that I just do a super hot rinse and that's it. If your frog isn't sick and your changing out the substrate once a month or every 3 weeks you shouldn't have a bunch of bacteria living in there. A really good product is Zoo Med Wipeout, this is what I use to disinfect. For the substrate being wet, your supposed to squeeze out most the water so there is really no reason to leave it out to totally dry. A good rule is you want the substrate to clump in your hand when squeezed but not dripping water, this is what they need and it helps with the humidity.
    Thanks for the answer bro, will do that next time instead of letting it dry, but for the red leds, his belly and legs where all red, and he didnt moved them anymore, he wasnt able to move them at all. Then i noticed, i tried to help him by putting him in a paper towel spot but too late, he just stopped breathing and he was clearly dead, he did not turn arround anymore. I left him there for a while but i was already sure he was dead...

    Seen that he ate ecoearth two or three times, is it possible that could cause some impaction and kill him Monster ?
    Its been a while, but he did ate some.
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    Thanks for the kind words guys!
    I'll be looking for the ornata after tomorrow. New terrarium is ready, but i'll get another plastic container cause i feel that one was Pixies, i will trow it away.
    New terrarium:
    Name:  IMG_20171029_210523.jpg
Views: 212
Size:  3.44 MB
    It's an 18x18x18.

    Btw i was changing the substrat every week with pixies, and cleaning the plastic box each time, either with bleach or ammonia. For sure i rinse it very well after. Do you guys think it's better to get some reptile safe cleaner?
    I understand that the red legs are like bacteria and stuff, but i cleaned the guy often so i guess he arrived like that. Btw i cleaned is plastic container but the terrarium itself, since it had no substrate i did not clean it for a while, maybe i did rinse it two times in two months. But i guess this could not be the cause.
    Maybe he already arrived like that and thats why he didnt eat.

    Ps: I use ecoearth, lets say if i make one brick and store it for a month, is it considered clean of bacteria if it's dry? Cause usually the stuff don't dry quickly, and i kinda don't want the substrat to be water.
    We use chlorhexidine is safe for animals but any other reptile amphibians safe cleaner should work. We don’t use chlorine or ammonia based cleaners simply cause if it isnt safe for himans, it probably isnt safe for animals either. But if u were rinsing good it wasnt your fault. sorry for your loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdan4712 View Post
    We use chlorhexidine is safe for animals but any other reptile amphibians safe cleaner should work. We don’t use chlorine or ammonia based cleaners simply cause if it isnt safe for himans, it probably isnt safe for animals either. But if u were rinsing good it wasnt your fault. sorry for your loss.
    Hey bro thanks for the tip. So i'm able to find this on a 4% concentration. You're actually saying that if i rub a paper towel with this i don't have to go to the trouble of washing the enclosure ? i want this if it's the case. Less work no?
    I'm also able to found an alchoolic chlorhexidine which is 2% concentration and should evaporate faster. Which would be better?
    Thanks

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