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    Hi, if your going to divide the tank I would just use a fish tank divider or a piece of a plastic. Wood may mold due to the high humidity. For your humidity no 90% is not good, its to high and if kept like that the frog could get respiratory problems and with the heat and humidity being that high you could start to grow bacteria in your tank. Try to keep your humidity around 75%, this way when you mist it wont go a lot higher then 80% for to long. You could also let your heat go up to around 83F and this may help a little and let it drop down to around 78F to 77F at night. For the handling if you have been picking him up a lot like you mentioned this is stressing him out a lot, you have to try and leave him be. Stress is one of the number one killers in amphibians, it lowers there immune system and this causes them to get sick. When your feeding try to feed him at night about a half hour to an hour after his lights go out, this is when they eat in the wild. The temp drop and darkness triggers there feeding. For your lighting you say 9-11 hours, it cant vary like that he needs a constant 12 hours day and 12 hours night, if its not the same all the time it will confuse him and stress him out. I know that sounds crazy because its just a frog but they are like clock work, they need the same routine. If the humidity, heat and lighting aren't constantly the same or the heat and humidity are to high or to low it can cause them to estivate. And as a baby you don't want this to happen because he more then likely will not make it out of it, even with adults if things aren't done perfect before estivation it can kill them. The water even though its bottled I would add some reptisafe or a similar product just in case to remove anything that could be harm full to the frog, some bottled water contains fluoride and other things still even though its bottled. I noticed you said you covered the back with a back ground, maybe try covering the 2 sides also. Try these things and the things mentioned above and I'm sure your little guy should start to eat soon.

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    Thanks Monster, for the water i just added reptisafe, i believe that i put too much drops, would that be a problem? For the 12h lightning is impossible for me as i work a lot, so i bought a night and day Thermostat with lightning. Still not arrive, for the moment it is impossible for me to keep him at steady lightining as you said, what should i do? No light at all? For the humidity its at 80 right now, when i change him i'll make sure to leave it at 75, thank you pall.
    The sides and the back are covered, sorry for not being specific

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    Update:
    Pixie is still not eating, tried with some nightcrawllers and nothing. I did crickets in the morning, and nightcrawllers after lights out and nothing. I've passed it on his paws too, and nothing.
    Whats the possibility of him being blind? How can i tell?
    I'm afraid he might die it's been a while since he ate, should i force feed him once or something?

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    If you cant do nothing about the lighting till your thermostat with lighting comes in then I guess the frog will just have to wait. Out of all honesty I wouldn't try feeding during the day and just wait till night when they normally eat, its just added stress. From the sounds of it I think hes just really stressed out from all the interaction the last 2 weeks, they really need a couple days of quiet and no interaction to settle. Once you have all the husbandry right if hes still not eating then there could be a underlying illness or something and he may need a vet. When you feed him do use tongs or do you just let the crickets run around? If your doing tongs maybe wait till its really dark and just put the crickets in leave the room for abit and maybe he will catch and eat a couple of them, sometimes when they are small the tongs really freak them out. Have you divided the tank yet in half? If not this may help to, if he was in something small before you got him the extra space may be making him feel vulnerable and he doesn't want to move or do anything because hes scared.

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    If you cant do nothing about the lighting till your thermostat with lighting comes in then I guess the frog will just have to wait. Out of all honesty I wouldn't try feeding during the day and just wait till night when they normally eat, its just added stress. From the sounds of it I think hes just really stressed out from all the interaction the last 2 weeks, they really need a couple days of quiet and no interaction to settle. Once you have all the husbandry right if hes still not eating then there could be a underlying illness or something and he may need a vet. When you feed him do use tongs or do you just let the crickets run around? If your doing tongs maybe wait till its really dark and just put the crickets in leave the room for abit and maybe he will catch and eat a couple of them, sometimes when they are small the tongs really freak them out. Have you divided the tank yet in half? If not this may help to, if he was in something small before you got him the extra space may be making him feel vulnerable and he doesn't want to move or do anything because hes scared.
    Thanks again for your answer Monster, i will devise it first thing in the morning, i'll leave it at around 30x20cms instead of 50cmsx20cms, i'll only leave the plant and the bowl, he seems to like more the plant to hide than the hut does this sounds good?
    yes he was in a little transparent box with water at the store and they had a normal very bright light above, which i found to be stupid and i really hope there was no UVB in that, then i'll leave him untouched for two days or so then retry the crickets. I already did both, tweezers and letting them running around for the night, but even without back legs they hide in the plant and everything and the frog doesnt even try, they all were still there the next day. The only one he ate was with tweezers, almost two weeks ago.
    Anyway for the lights, i bought a old fashioned analogic timer(the ones that turns and usually are robust) which i'm going to receive tomorrow throught amazon prime, so i'm trying to fix my little frog for now.
    Also, my Thermostat (the one working now) has the probe around 5cms higher than the frog, not touching the glass and arround 20cms frog the ceramic lamp, which is dimmed to around 25w, i don't know if this is the correct way, normally under the lamp to the right side is 28degrees C and it drops to around 27.5 to the corner in the right. The left corner always is arround 25.8° (where the hygrometer is) Should i bump this numbers on the left side up, or is this fine being the cold side? The water bowl is in the middle.
    I believe that my hygrometer is way off too. Sometimes it says 99%, which is impossible, then it goes back to 80%, might be when i spray it. It is also arround 5cms higher than the frog, should i put it higher or is it fine? Anyway this part doesn't worry me, i know that the coco fiber should be moist but not wet.
    And really, thank you very much for answering Monster, you're helping me a lot in this hard beggining.

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    I don't measure in cm's but you want it to be about 1 inch to 1/2 inch above the substrate and the same as the hygrometer. Having a cool side is good because it lets him regulate his body temps from hot to cold. If he backs up from your hand or the tweezers his vision should be good because this would indicate he see's it, and your right that the lights shouldn't be to bright. I would wait till tomorrow when its divided and everything is good and see how he does, it could really be the going from something small to something big. I know your worried but I would maybe just leave him till tomorrow and give him a night off from being interacted with or even just try feeding for a couple minutes if you cant resist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monster View Post
    I don't measure in cm's but you want it to be about 1 inch to 1/2 inch above the substrate and the same as the hygrometer. Having a cool side is good because it lets him regulate his body temps from hot to cold. If he backs up from your hand or the tweezers his vision should be good because this would indicate he see's it, and your right that the lights shouldn't be to bright. I would wait till tomorrow when its divided and everything is good and see how he does, it could really be the going from something small to something big. I know your worried but I would maybe just leave him till tomorrow and give him a night off from being interacted with or even just try feeding for a couple minutes if you cant resist.
    Thanks again for your answer, so got the analogic timer in place with a 2w led and a soft difuser so it isnt too bright. Cycle is from 8 to 8pm, Instead of divising the terrarium i actually emptied it and put a little box inside, with the 4 sides covered with some A4 paper and i put the plant and the water bowl. Frog is now in a 28x18cms container, which is half of the terrarium, he hasn't a lot of space to move but he seems more relaxed. I'm going to wait for tomorrow to feed him. Thanks again for the replies monster.
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