Quote Originally Posted by Larry Wardog View Post
It is very complex and if you've seen the thread you see that it hasn't been the animals it's on me for the mistakes made. I spent 2 years in research before I made this. We are going on 3 years after my decision now and there have been casualties even with experience. If the animals are from the same area and you can provide adequate care such as vet visits, big enclosure, varied diet, and regulate a humidity and temp, and last but not least look at the best interest of the animals. Many people take a huge chance with keeping mixed species, but if you are persistent and know what you are getting into at least to me it's worth it. I'm just defending my thread with this comment. I hope it helps you

Edit: the Toads only use it as defense. The leopard frog never attacked a toad and it saw 4 some young and some as big as it. I never had any accidents due to the research and prior handling of the two to know that. The Toads never bullied the frog either the frog only had an issue with one toad for some reason but nothing ever led to one being removed. Leopard frogs are not toxic. I think you will have a hard time finding Fowler's Toads and Albinos.


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Uh for the albinos they used to be up for sale a few years ago on a site I knew. For the fowler's toads-- they're extremely common where I am from. Not much more common than the american of course.

Still I prefer the americans over the fowlers as they come in more color varieties from what I can see. I'd like the idea of a longer lived amphibian but I guess 5-15 years is a lot anyways.

As for taking it to the vet. That's the thing, over here it's illegal to catch toads and stuff. Only thing you can catch is snapping turtles, and bullfrogs. So if I went and took it to a vet to get it dewormed/de-parasitized it may not end on a good note.

It's why I was tempted into trying a cane toad again, but I know for sure no one would ever dare to breed those. lol. That and the fact that they're shy compared to an american toad. It takes time for toads to adjust, but it feels canes dont adjust. Ironic part is they're supposedly better suited for captivity.