Chomper - C. cranwelli

[Sylphie]

Well, we tried some things today. First of all we bathed him and he did his poop here, it was normal, healthy looking poop, so not worries here. I know for sure that he ate one roach and one cricket as after 2-3 days they were gone, and I also guess he ate some small mealworms that I tossed into his tub. He's also rounder than before, so I know he eats at least a little, even if I don't see it. My main concern is the lack of calcium as like I said he eats his insects after such a time that they rub off all the calcium in the meantime.

Today while bathing him I cleaned his tub, switched it back to clean-hospital style, and then we tried the separate container method. I leaved him in it for 2 hours with one cricket in a dark room, but he refused to eat it. We decided to try to give him pinky like his breeder told us when we bought him (rub the pinky on the lower lip) and even some teasing on tongs (like "look, I'm just a live pinky walking there"), but again he refused. We'll leave him alone for few days now so he will be able to calm down as I guess he was pretty stressed today after all that. In Friday we'll go for our reptile shopping and just buy him one live pinky to see if he'll react to the movement. I'm normally against feeding live but after breeding snakes I know that it's often the best way to get them to recognize the shape of pinky as a food.

Edit: Pics I took few minutes ago, to my eyes he looks quite healthy and certainly got more round than before.





Also, I'll try to feed him some liquid calcium tomorrow. Is there a possibility that I may use too much of it? I'm not really sure how much calcium to water ratio I should use, and how much to give him? Thanks for all the tips, I never imagined that owning a pacman will be so stressing to both me and him!

[monster]

I was just looking at the Fluckers liquid calcium and it says to add 1/2 a teaspoon to every 8 oz's of water. If you think this may be to much because hes just small still cut the calcium amount in half. I imagine even if you cant get this brand the others would be roughly around same. Seems like the Fluckers one and Exo Terra have some really good reviews. I have never had to use it so i cant give a first hand opinion on which one is better. Maybe someone else that has had to use it in the past may see the thread and give there opinion. And your right all and all he looks round and healthy and he does look like hes eaten something, and if hes pooping that's clear indicator hes eaten. Its just getting the little bugger to eat them before they wipe the vitamins off. And yes some can be very stressfull to get eaten, comfortable etc where as others are good right from the get go.

[Sylphie]

I also get recommended to not give him food at all for few days by one of the breeders in my country. He said that he looks really well fed and that may be why he don't jump at the feeders immediately. It may be true because we were told to feed him every two days so he was having insects basically all week round.

[Sylphie]

Since it could help other people here is a side story thread about this guy: http://www.frogforum.net/showthread....539#post276539

It's a story abut how he "drowned" in his bath, was dead, limp and not breathing and then the next morning he was just sitting and alive like nothing happened at all.

[Sylphie]

Out of curiosity: Red leg disease or is it normal that they have slightly pinkier legs? (There was a time when his belly was a dark pink too and the legs were red, our reptile vet said that he's so small that giving him any treatment would end badly so we just kept him in clean and calm enviroment and it got a lot better now... he's a little fighter, thinking about calling him Chuck ). Also, he was on his back for exaclty five seconds to get these done, I know you shouldn't put them like these but he wouldn't sit still otherwise.

[monster]

Hi, your good I'm pretty sure that's just irritation from the substrate or from burrowing down to the glass if he goes that far down. Babies are pretty active and not being the furthest and highest jumpers they tend to rub against the ground a little more then a good strong jumping frog. All 4 of mine will sometimes have pinkish legs from time to time from doing the things I have listed above.

[Sylphie]

Hi, your good I'm pretty sure that's just irritation from the substrate or from burrowing down to the glass if he goes that far down. Babies are pretty active and not being the furthest and highest jumpers they tend to rub against the ground a little more then a good strong jumping frog. All 4 of mine will sometimes have pinkish legs from time to time from doing the things I have listed above.

Thank you! I'm so glad it's nothing dangerous... And yes, most of the time he'll burrow himself a deep hole and will sit on the glass.

[hisk]

I usually tong train with wax worms, because most reptiles will jump on them pretty hard. If that doesn't work you can just get them used to tongs by consistently using them to handle the frog's food. The ones I've had seem to start recognizing them as being related to food pretty quickly.

[Sylphie]

I usually tong train with wax worms, because most reptiles will jump on them pretty hard. If that doesn't work you can just get them used to tongs by consistently using them to handle the frog's food. The ones I've had seem to start recognizing them as being related to food pretty quickly.

That's exactly what I did, every feeding I would drop the worms in front of him using tongs and now he eats like a champ and will chase the tongs around his tub! Both his legs and his appettite got a lot better last motnh so I'm really glad and proud of him, he's a little fighter!