WTF in 16 gallon storage bin?

[Nyrasoren]

Hello all! I'm new to this forum, and was wondering if a 16 gallon storage bin that's been sanitized with vinegar diluted with water would be a safe place to quarantine a whites tree frog?
Im going out tomorrow to buy hopefully two whites tree frogs, I have a ten gallon set up vertically with a 50 watt bulb to keep the temp at 78f during the day and low 70's at night, damp white paper towels with water and reptisafe, a water dish, food dish, fake plants, and vines to climb on. If I happen to get two frogs, could they be quarantined together, or separately. In the case that separate is the way to go, would the plastic storage bin, horizontally with the same paper towels, dishes, fake plants, and a coconut hide away, be a safe/okay thing to do?

[jasonm96]

If you provide good ventilation as in cut the top and replace with screen and some drilled holes in the side it may be ok for quarantine. It's just that tree frogs, especially whites need good ventilation and no stagnant air or high moisture, so be sure it's well vented. Also, they should have a basking spot of 85F and a UVB light over a piece of screen. You can keep them together if you got them from the same place.

[Nyrasoren]

Thanks for the reply! So I can keep both frogs in the same tank (10gallon) if I get them from the same store?

[elly]

Yeah if the frogs were sharing a tank before you got them there's no reason to put them in separate places unless the tank's too small. Honestly I can't picture a ten gallon tank in my mind. It might be a little small?

If they aren't going to be there long it might not be bad.

[jasonm96]

10-gallons way too small, at least 20-gals and larger is best

[Nyrasoren]

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 10 gallon tank is a quarantine tank, as well as the 16 gallon bin. Does this change things? The frogs at the pet store are kept in 5.5 gallon tanks, so I thought that a 10 gallon tank would be alright just for quarantining purposes.

[jasonm96]

I take it they're babies then? But I would go larger if they're adults so you can provide proper heat and light gradients. You don't. We'd to quarantine them really unless you're putting them in with hours or believe that they may be diseased. You can just put them in their normal housing but keep it simple until they're established

[Nyrasoren]

They're about an inch in length. I don't know how old that would make them.. Also, I was wondering, as I can't find some solid info on this, but when do the males croak? Is it only during breeding season?

[jasonm96]

Just wrote a reply and didn't go through, grrr!

It's hard to tell the age by size, since different feeding schedules and temperatures can result in slower or faster growth,but they are juveniles and can be kept in a 10-gallon for some time no problem.

i would expect calling within the first year under a good feeding and proper temperatures, after a rise in humidity after misting. But you may need to wait until the second year and keep the humidity lower and temperatures warmer for a few months. They're not really good frogs for hobbyists to breed though due to clutch size, unless you have plenty of space, equipment and food

[Nyrasoren]

I've listened to some videos of males croaking, and I'm worried the frog will get quite loud haha! I would like a male and female, but i don't want to end up with eggs someday, so should I get either male and male or female and female, or would a male and a female work out okay together?

[jasonm96]

Na probably won't

if they're keeping the humidity on the higher side or if there's a storm outside then they might

You'll be fine with any sex together, it'll be very unlikely that they'll breed if you don't condition then

[elly]

It's not very easy to get these frogs to breed. Usually it requires a period of hibernation then a rain tank or lots of storms outside. It's possible it could happen without effort on your part but not very likely.

The frogs do get loud, but if there's substrate and other soft stuff in the tank it tends to muffle sound in my experience. I've learned to sleep through croaking frogs.