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    Quote Originally Posted by herpdoc View Post
    When I used to rear wood frogs from tadpoles (these are the smallest froglets I've dealt with), I put the froglets in a tupperware container with a few small holes with fruit flies. The froglets then go to town and usually finish eating within 10-15min. I then put them back in the tank. Alternatively, I think pinheads would probably be ok and this would be the easiest step.
    Excellent! That sounds like a great way to deal with the fruit fly issue. That is a lot of frogs to wrangle though. I'll also be using pinheads and x-tra small phoenix worms. Those would be okay in the tank since they can't climb. Just didn't know how to handle the fruit flies. Thank you!
    3.0.2 Litoria caerulea (White's Tree Frog)
    0.2.0 Polypedates leucomystax (Golden Tree Frog)
    0.1.0 Dyscophus insularis (Tomato Frog)
    0.0.4 Bombina orientalis (Fire Bellied Toad)
    2.1.0 Agalychnis callidryas (Red Eyed Tree Frog)
    0.0.2 Dendrobates auratus Green & Black
    0.0.2 Dendrobates leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates tinctorius Green Sipaliwini
    0.0.2 Dendrobates tinctorius Cobalt
    0.0.15? Hyla versicolor (Gray Tree Frog)




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    Regarding how to get the fruitflies in the container, I would encourage them to come near the top of the jar where I kept them and then quickly open and then tap some into the frog feeding container then quickly close up both containers. You have to be quick and accept that a few fruitflies will get loose. Hopefully these are the mutated flightless type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herpdoc View Post
    Regarding how to get the fruitflies in the container, I would encourage them to come near the top of the jar where I kept them and then quickly open and then tap some into the frog feeding container then quickly close up both containers. You have to be quick and accept that a few fruitflies will get loose. Hopefully these are the mutated flightless type.
    Oh yeah - these are the flightless types. Both melanogaster and hydei. I feed the melanogasters to my dead leaf mantis nymph and use much the same procedure as you described. A slippery funnel makes it easier for me. So does putting the culture in the fridge for 5 minutes beforehand. Slows those puppies down a bit! But not for long. Those escapees are swept up by the edge of a piece of paper before they can get too far.
    3.0.2 Litoria caerulea (White's Tree Frog)
    0.2.0 Polypedates leucomystax (Golden Tree Frog)
    0.1.0 Dyscophus insularis (Tomato Frog)
    0.0.4 Bombina orientalis (Fire Bellied Toad)
    2.1.0 Agalychnis callidryas (Red Eyed Tree Frog)
    0.0.2 Dendrobates auratus Green & Black
    0.0.2 Dendrobates leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates tinctorius Green Sipaliwini
    0.0.2 Dendrobates tinctorius Cobalt
    0.0.15? Hyla versicolor (Gray Tree Frog)




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    Wish I could give you advice, but we were lucky enough to not have tree frog tadpoles, just Florida Southern Toads. But yes, its funny how even the most cheapest species of frog can end up costing you hundreds I feel like that's the catch, having you spend more money at their stor I have Four Fire bellied toads, my girlfriend named them all. They all cost 7.15 per frog and ended up costing me more than $400, the main cost was the gravel and decorations. We actually picked up the 55 gallon tank with its stand and screen for 55 bucks at our local family owned petstore, was great and looks great. We plan on adopting the last Fire Bellied this weekend.

    Excited to see how it goes and I will check up on this thread every day or two!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marinecrab View Post
    Wish I could give you advice, but we were lucky enough to not have tree frog tadpoles, just Florida Southern Toads. But yes, its funny how even the most cheapest species of frog can end up costing you hundreds I feel like that's the catch, having you spend more money at their stor I have Four Fire bellied toads, my girlfriend named them all. They all cost 7.15 per frog and ended up costing me more than $400, the main cost was the gravel and decorations. We actually picked up the 55 gallon tank with its stand and screen for 55 bucks at our local family owned petstore, was great and looks great. We plan on adopting the last Fire Bellied this weekend.

    Excited to see how it goes and I will check up on this thread every day or two!
    Fire Bellied Toads are a riot to watch. I have four as well (all named - LOL!). They didn't cost me as much as yours. Picked up a $5 used aquarium at Goodwill complete with light strip and filter. That setup was turned into a paludarium complete with two green cory cats and a couple minnows to clean up the watery world beneath. The most expensive parts were the screen cover and locks. Those little devils are escape artists! Good luck with your new FBT this weekend.

    The Tadpole Team still seems to be thriving. My boyfriend and I collected algae covered rocks this last weekend. I added them to the setup, and the tadpoles are munching away. There are faint bulges where the front legs will appear on some of them. Still no casualties. A water change is due today. I have to wonder about some of the tadpoles that are so much smaller. A different species perhaps? We shall see ...
    3.0.2 Litoria caerulea (White's Tree Frog)
    0.2.0 Polypedates leucomystax (Golden Tree Frog)
    0.1.0 Dyscophus insularis (Tomato Frog)
    0.0.4 Bombina orientalis (Fire Bellied Toad)
    2.1.0 Agalychnis callidryas (Red Eyed Tree Frog)
    0.0.2 Dendrobates auratus Green & Black
    0.0.2 Dendrobates leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates tinctorius Green Sipaliwini
    0.0.2 Dendrobates tinctorius Cobalt
    0.0.15? Hyla versicolor (Gray Tree Frog)




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    Quote Originally Posted by Wood Nymph View Post
    Fire Bellied Toads are a riot to watch. I have four as well (all named - LOL!). They didn't cost me as much as yours. Picked up a $5 used aquarium at Goodwill complete with light strip and filter. That setup was turned into a paludarium complete with two green cory cats and a couple minnows to clean up the watery world beneath. The most expensive parts were the screen cover and locks. Those little devils are escape artists! Good luck with your new FBT this weekend.

    The Tadpole Team still seems to be thriving. My boyfriend and I collected algae covered rocks this last weekend. I added them to the setup, and the tadpoles are munching away. There are faint bulges where the front legs will appear on some of them. Still no casualties. A water change is due today. I have to wonder about some of the tadpoles that are so much smaller. A different species perhaps? We shall see ...


    Thank you and hah, we picked up the tank, stand and screen for only 55 bucks I looked it up and find out that it was originally 500 bucks brand new so i'm pretty happy. I'm really excited to adopt and rescue that fire bellied toad from the perils of a 6 year old child. We're thinking about adopting the chubby White treefrog from the store since he's a loner too. Might set him up into the verticle tank I had originally for the toads when I was a beginner, once I do some research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wood Nymph View Post
    Fire Bellied Toads are a riot to watch. I have four as well (all named - LOL!). They didn't cost me as much as yours. Picked up a $5 used aquarium at Goodwill complete with light strip and filter. That setup was turned into a paludarium complete with two green cory cats and a couple minnows to clean up the watery world beneath. The most expensive parts were the screen cover and locks. Those little devils are escape artists! Good luck with your new FBT this weekend.

    The Tadpole Team still seems to be thriving. My boyfriend and I collected algae covered rocks this last weekend. I added them to the setup, and the tadpoles are munching away. There are faint bulges where the front legs will appear on some of them. Still no casualties. A water change is due today. I have to wonder about some of the tadpoles that are so much smaller. A different species perhaps? We shall see ...


    That's great news, and yes. They are escape artists, we had a casualty due to one escaping in the middle of the night only to find him shrivled up. We fixed that problem now of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marinecrab View Post
    That's great news, and yes. They are escape artists, we had a casualty due to one escaping in the middle of the night only to find him shrivled up. We fixed that problem now of course.
    Yup. I had one escape as well. Still haven't found it. It's a goner for sure by now. That paludarium is well locked now. That was "Moe" of the Eenie, Meanie, Miney, and Moe team. Then there was no Moe. I replaced him with New Moe. I'm such a dork.
    3.0.2 Litoria caerulea (White's Tree Frog)
    0.2.0 Polypedates leucomystax (Golden Tree Frog)
    0.1.0 Dyscophus insularis (Tomato Frog)
    0.0.4 Bombina orientalis (Fire Bellied Toad)
    2.1.0 Agalychnis callidryas (Red Eyed Tree Frog)
    0.0.2 Dendrobates auratus Green & Black
    0.0.2 Dendrobates leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates tinctorius Green Sipaliwini
    0.0.2 Dendrobates tinctorius Cobalt
    0.0.15? Hyla versicolor (Gray Tree Frog)




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    Quote Originally Posted by Wood Nymph View Post
    Fire Bellied Toads are a riot to watch. I have four as well (all named - LOL!). They didn't cost me as much as yours. Picked up a $5 used aquarium at Goodwill complete with light strip and filter. That setup was turned into a paludarium complete with two green cory cats and a couple minnows to clean up the watery world beneath. The most expensive parts were the screen cover and locks. Those little devils are escape artists! Good luck with your new FBT this weekend.

    The Tadpole Team still seems to be thriving. My boyfriend and I collected algae covered rocks this last weekend. I added them to the setup, and the tadpoles are munching away. There are faint bulges where the front legs will appear on some of them. Still no casualties. A water change is due today. I have to wonder about some of the tadpoles that are so much smaller. A different species perhaps? We shall see ...

    We just adopted the Tree frog, he's a very calm chubby fellow, Girlfriend name him Opal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marinecrab View Post
    We just adopted the Tree frog, he's a very calm chubby fellow, Girlfriend name him Opal.
    Glad you got the White's. Is it your first? I have five and they are almost as much fun to watch as the fire belly crew.

    Okay! Here's an update:

    Things have been happening rather rapidly in the tadpole tank. On Friday, I had two froglets pasted to the glass and more changing. By Sunday, I had two full-fledged frogs! Here are some pics:

    On Friday




    Sunday!







    Looks like herpdoc was right: green tree frogs. Yer good!! I have a cup that I fill with fruit that maintains the attention of the flightless fruit flies for the frogs. But just for sure, I laid a line of diatomaceous earth along the upper lip of the aquarium. Next up will be pinhead crickets.

    Since I last posted, I've done quite a bit of research. It seems that tadpoles can go into hibernation if they are in good health. So, I picked out the least developed of the whole mess. They were released in the spring that feeds a huge equisetum (horsetail) swamp alongside the creek that runs through the forest on my property. That leaves me with 8 - 10 (???) rapidly developing tadpoles, froglets, and frogs. That is a manageable number to feed and care for until release in the springtime. Sure hope the released tadpoles will be okay. Next step will be to enlarge the terrestrial area of the tank.


    Their new home








    For scale: My creek is 20 to 30 feet wide.


    3.0.2 Litoria caerulea (White's Tree Frog)
    0.2.0 Polypedates leucomystax (Golden Tree Frog)
    0.1.0 Dyscophus insularis (Tomato Frog)
    0.0.4 Bombina orientalis (Fire Bellied Toad)
    2.1.0 Agalychnis callidryas (Red Eyed Tree Frog)
    0.0.2 Dendrobates auratus Green & Black
    0.0.2 Dendrobates leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates tinctorius Green Sipaliwini
    0.0.2 Dendrobates tinctorius Cobalt
    0.0.15? Hyla versicolor (Gray Tree Frog)




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