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    Peeps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deku View Post
    Okay well in that case do what I do. Get a rubbermaid tub the size of the water space you want it to be and just put it in the tank. You can make it so the pool is at ground level. Like dont put it on top of the soil. Take out some of the soil in that part(meaning that area will be bare glass) and put the rubbermaid in there. Put soil around the rubbermaid to fill in the gaps(you can use some linen to seperate dirt from tub). Get some live moss and put it on the borders so its like a mat. Whenever the anole or treefrog goes in itd wipe the dirt out of the legs and body when they get out itll help keep the plant moist. If you dont want to use the plant you can line it with large flat rocks. :] Hopes this help! There are many other things you can do. I did this with my old terrarium. But what I did was I put the tank with water and then put the rubbermaid with soil. So I can put a filter in the water for the ranids to use. You know? Works either way! Make sure y ou have enough vines/plants on the tank and drift wood for climbing. Anoles are extremely active species.
    Thnx for the help, I will be using your idea. Now about Kurt's comment, maybe I could put some sticks and plants hanging down from up high into the water. So that way, if my Anole falls in or even gets in the water he can hopefully get out. Also, haha, the water is only meant for my frog, I don't want my Anole in it. Again, thanks for the help!

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    I don't know if this helps, but when I made a water area for my Whites', I put large rocks in the bottom. Even though the water level was quite a few inches, for the frogs it was shallow water because of the rocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peeps View Post
    Thnx for the help, I will be using your idea. Now about Kurt's comment, maybe I could put some sticks and plants hanging down from up high into the water. So that way, if my Anole falls in or even gets in the water he can hopefully get out. Also, haha, the water is only meant for my frog, I don't want my Anole in it. Again, thanks for the help!
    You know those "turtle docks"? That would be better off in that so should your anole accidentally goes in than he can get out. I would also put sticks like you said. But good luck. Just remember to keep a close eye on it. I guess if you feed them both they may not bother each other? Iam more worried about parasites and bacteria. Plus the fact that all frogs are mildly toxic. If i were you id put a small whisper filter in the lil tub. Itll help remove waste. Still you do waterchanges and itll be like a fishtank(just dont add fish).

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    I'm no expert, but don't frogs only unleash their toxins when threatened? Just Wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peeps View Post
    I'm no expert, but don't frogs only unleash their toxins when threatened? Just Wondering.
    In generall its in their skin. when they go in the water, the toxins get into the water. All frogs have poisons.

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    I would think that if the anole had plenty of escape options from the water bowl that it should be fine, however the toxicity of the frog is an area of concern. I'm not sure how toxic your treefrog would be to your anole, and how quickly the water could be tainted with the toxins from the frogs skin. However, if you do the rubbermaid idea, you can set it up so that you can remove it daily and replenish it with fresh dechlorinated water, thereby effectively removing any toxin buildup that may occur. It is a gamble, though, keeping two completely different species together, even though both the green treefrog and the green anole share much of the same natural range. I have kept anoles in the past, and have noticed definite aggression in males, however a 60 gal terrarium is a lot of space for both animals to find their own territories. The biggest issue I can see being a problem is the possibility of the anole mistaking the frog for food when it moves, and even though the frog is probably too big for the anole to eat (let's face it, anoles are not the biggest of lizards), it still can cause some damage to the frog's delicate skin should it happen to mistakenly grab it. Also keep in mind that frogs are very opportunistic feeders, and I have witnessed mine try to steal food from each other's mouths. If the frog tries to steal a cricket or something else from the anole, it could wind up getting accidentally bitten. Not to say that this will definitely happen, but something to watch out for. Good idea having a second cage on hand for the frog if need be, and good luck! I think interspecies tanks are cool, just not always the easiest to do.

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    After having read these posts, I want to run my idea past you all about setting up a tank for just firebellies...Set up to have glass partitions siliconed to bottom and sides for fresh water area about 5" deep with filter sectioned off in one back corner...and pump for small waterfall area in opposite back corner..glass to be slightly lower for better water movement...and a return from one corner to the other as a small siliconed, rock stream on rubber pond liner material...the water area for guppies which firebellies can eat, and water for them to do their thing..with tinted glass against the planted area...36 G L tank..live plants, screen top. Any suggestions, comments, etc.? I want to plan carefully to have it work the FIRST time...One of my other tanks is set up as a paladarium and has Endlers in the water portion...no filter so I just do small water changes every week...the female had babies last week..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy S View Post
    After having read these posts, I want to run my idea past you all about setting up a tank for just firebellies...Set up to have glass partitions siliconed to bottom and sides for fresh water area about 5" deep with filter sectioned off in one back corner...and pump for small waterfall area in opposite back corner..glass to be slightly lower for better water movement...and a return from one corner to the other as a small siliconed, rock stream on rubber pond liner material...the water area for guppies which firebellies can eat, and water for them to do their thing..with tinted glass against the planted area...36 G L tank..live plants, screen top. Any suggestions, comments, etc.? I want to plan carefully to have it work the FIRST time...One of my other tanks is set up as a paladarium and has Endlers in the water portion...no filter so I just do small water changes every week...the female had babies last week..
    Well first off firebellies arent going to eat the guppies as they prey on land(from what i noticed). As for mixing guppies with fbt's as long as your tank is big enough. YOu know female guppies produce alot of hormones that apparently can kill other fish if they are overloaded like (20guppies in a 10g or even a 15g with good filtration). Personally I wouldnt waste my time setting up a part for guppies as guppies are somewhat sensitive they also need higher salinity than a frog does. If you wanna set up a tank with small fish with your fbt's try neons or even minnows. Just make sure you quarantine them for atleast a couple of weeks(3) to make sure they dont contain anything(you treat them for parasites and illness so it doesnt pass on to the toads). You will need a good filter and you will need to cycle the water area before you put in fish in there. As well as you need to get aquaintanced with the laws of fishkeeping(like obvious rules). If you plan keeping the fbts in a 20g and you only have half land and its filled with water half way(so its half filled from the top of the tank and its also half of the tank because the other half is land) you would have like 3-4gallons of water which isnt enough room to keep fish in appropriately. For guppies to be happy they need room, these are fish that are extremely active and breed like roaches(I used to breed them in the past). I mean it doesnt matter how big the tank you have, you gotta take accordance to the water area. Its dimmensions like how much ACTUAL water is in the water area? Sometimes itll look like 10gs and its actually 3-5gs. So just so you know should you want to put fish in be ready to use good filters and get a nice large tank. Sure sure fire bellies dont need a HUGE tank, but if you're adding fish to the tank and you're only filling it half way and half the tank is a land area that only gives 2-4gallons of use in a 10-20gs. So like even say a 30g isnt enough to keep the fish in happy unless you plan on keeping a few(2-3) and thats not going to make them happy since smaller fish almost always are schooling fish. Theres also the rule of 1 INCH of SCALE OF FISH Per 2 gallons. So you would be over doing it. People have done it before and have put in fish in there, but just because they are alive does it really mean they are happy in there? Take that fact into consideration. Not only that but they need hide outs. If you use ornaments and plants which are needed for fish you are taking more space in the water area. Thus reducing the gallons of water being used. Not only that but you need a heater for the fish, how are you going to make sure the fish dont end up boiled?

    You should join a fish forum for more details on fish keeping. But again, it CAN be done but only if you actually have the room.
    Just my opinion and out of information I have researched over the years

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