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    Until the fecal comes back there's not much known about why the frogs not feeding and how to resolve it. I'm never had any problems with bullying, usually the competition makes them more eager to feed, if anything. If you didn't supplement the diet correctly then it could have MBD and finding it hard to catch prey or move about, but unless any signs of deformity are there then blood tests and x-Ray's would be needed to know for sure.

    A planted tank that size might be quite hard to keep clean for whites, not much floor space for planting and for waste to get broke down in, could lead to infections. This is only my opinion, I would just go larger for planted tanks for them to work best. The 2.0 UVB bulbs should not be labelled as UVB bulbs. Only if they are mounted inside the tank are they any use because the screen top filters up to half of the Rays out and a 2% output is low so not much power will make it through. If it were me I would use a 5% and a heat lamp during the day for a basking spot of 85F. I gut-load insects with fruit and veg mixed with calcium and then every few feeds a commercial diet and dust with Repashy Calcium Plus every time. it's easier than the normal supplements which can't be used as frequently and need to be used on set days (which recommendations vary) to avoid over supplying. For the supplements you have I think the usual is twice a week for juveniles and once a week for adults with the calcium mixed with the multivitamin, one should have D3. Someone else might be able shine some light.

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    Thanks for the response. I just heard back from the vet and the fecal came out clean. Definitely good news, but I was honestly hoping for a simple reason for his not eating. So if he supposedly has no parasites, and he's been treated with metronidazole and ciprofloxacin, what could be the issue? He still has not eaten. I've tried crickets, silkworms, and wax worms to no avail.

    thanks for the supplement info. I went ahead and got the repashy calcium plus and have been using it for the other frog.

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    There's a few things that will make them stop eating

    If temps are too low or high then this will cause stress and decrease appetite but some gannets may still eat even if they are over or underheated. Another is to remember that when older they need less food and might not always take it unless you give them a few days without. Like I said MBD is one thing that can make frogs lethargic or have difficulties with feeding. Basically, read up and go over your husbandry make sure every times right and check for signs of metabolic bone disease

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    Thanks. I've upped the temps a little bit, which he seems to enjoy. The hottest point is right around 83. He's spending time up top, near the basking bulb, so I'm assuming it's not too hot. I mist the tank a couple times a day, and I'm using paper towels along the bottom. I only have a single live plant in the tank that fills it out well; trying to keep it minimal and clean. I change the towels and water bowls at least every other day (usually daily). The only thing off about the habitat (to my knowledge) is the size: it's only a 12x12x18, meant to be a hospital tank until this resolves.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but if MBD were the primary cause of this, wouldn't there be some other apparent signs that the vet (a qualified hero vet) would have noticed? I'm definitely not denying the possibility, but he doesn't seem to have any trouble walking/climbing/gripping, and the vet looked at/in his mouth and said he looked good.

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    It's easy to notice when it's progressed real far but less at the beginning. I was listing possible causes, but the vet should be able to tell you what's wrong or make suggestions.

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    In addition being treated with medication has made my frog temporarily less willing to eat after the meds were stopped.

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    I just don't know what to do anymore. It's been almost two weeks since medicine stopped. I leave him completely alone for a few days, then offer food and nothing. He literally pushes the tongs away with his hands. I've tried letting bugs loose in the cage only to find them dead later. He just doesn't eat. At this point I'm looking to try another vet for a second opinion. Our current vet just prescribed the cipro and metronidazole, and said he couldn't culture anything to find a specific cause because we had already began treatment with Baytril and metronidazole per Dr. Frye's recommendation. I'm getting desperate

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