Phyllomedusa tomopterna- Super Tiger Legged Monkey Tree Frog-- Container Type?

[jasonm96]

I have a few books by the author who wrote it, knows his stuff. He also has a book out called simply 'treefrogs' which is good. The joshsfrogs caresheet is species specific and they breed a lot of frogs so I would trust them. The 18x18x18" is around 25 gal, so I would keep 4 in that size because they're not that big, not as much as 8 like said in the caresheet, that's a bit overcrowded buuuuut you would be much better with a larger tank, especially if you want to plant it because drainage layer tanks up height and plants grow tall. You can keep tree frogs in standard fish tanks with a screen top, it's just the reptile ones are better because of the front opening doors, when you open from the top the animals get stressed and the hassle of having to move the light and heat fixtures everyday is annoying. Two other features that the reptile tanks offer which make them better for tree frogs is that the Exo Terra's have more ventilation and you can get taller tanks. I don't personally own these frogs (though they are going to be my next purchase) I have kept/keep quite a few which require similar care.

[Lija]

I'm going to disagree here. Ph. Tomopherna don't need high percentage UVB and most definately not UVB 10. You are confusing them with Ph. Sauvagii and bicolour that do need that strength and sit out in the open basking under the sun, tomopherna care is very similar to red eye tree frog care, except they are smaller and don't really need huge cages, but like with any tree frog the bigger the tank the better it is, they will use every inch of the space and it is less stressful for the frog. They would very much apprechiate naturalistic aboreal tank, but I would look for taller then 18" one. You need to think - what you want to achieve? If the answer is to have " happy frogs" that you will enjoy for the years to come, then get the biggest tank you can possibly get for the space you have
personally I would not keep them ( group of 4) in a tank smaller then 18x18x24

where are you getting them? Are they CB?

[jasonm96]

I'm not confusing them... UVB100 is actually a 5% and ff you put a the lower 2% UVB over screen you actually do nothing for your frogs but provide them light, as the UVB is halved and unusable. I think this is why Exo Terra changed their UVB bulbs names. The exact % of UVB required actually depends on the size of the tank and cannot be determined solely on that 'this' UVB should always be used for this animal. What you need to know is the uv gradients needed throughout the tank for the species. If you use a too low percentage UVB you don't provide the right UVB gradients which they need. It's similar to that if you were using a heat lamp, Oviously larger tanks will require more wattage than smaller to provide the right temps. As they are arboreal they can use the height and size of the enclosure to regulate the exposure effectively.

[Diver]

Jason is quite correct, P. tomopterna, like all tree frog species require UVB and an arboreal enclosure. A minimum of 5% in a 2ft high cage if not higher due to the halving caused by the mesh is appropriate. By habit Super Tigers sit on the tops of leaves all day long so their exposure would be very high in the wild.

[viper69]

Hi everyone, for some reasons your replies are not being sent to via instant email notification. Thanks for the info, I will read through these more carefully and respond, as it raises more questions.

I'm only interested in owning 2 of this species. I'm not looking to breed either. Maybe 3 at most.

Can one use a Radiant Heat Panel with this species. In the past I always used a light bulb to generate heat for my frogs. However, I wasn't sure if a RHP would be good or bad for these animals.

I remain undecided if I'm going to do a planted viv at this time.