Treating for chytrid fungus

[Strider18]

Do you think they're showing symptoms? If they aren't there's no need.

I wouldn't say there is no need to. In some ways, it couldn't hurt to be safe. It's just like getting any other new frog, you want them quarantined and get them tested to make sure they won't infect any of the other inhabitants in the enclosure.

[Dace]

I wouldn't say there is no need to. In some ways, it couldn't hurt to be safe. It's just like getting any other new frog, you want them quarantined and get them tested to make sure they won't infect any of the other inhabitants in the enclosure.

Yes, but that doesn't mean take them for an extremely expensive vet visit when there's no reason to suspect that they're ill. I don't even think that American toads (assuming that's the species in question) are susceptible to chytrid. There haven't been any die offs or anything.

[Deku]

Yes, but that doesn't mean take them for an extremely expensive vet visit when there's no reason to suspect that they're ill. I don't even think that American toads (assuming that's the species in question) are susceptible to chytrid. There haven't been any die offs or anything.

it's not just for a fungus check up. its for parasites as well.

[monster]

Hi, if you end up finding out that vet is going to charge for each individual frog and you want to test for chytrid I just checked josh's frogs and you can buy a Chytrid and ranavirus 2 in 1 kit for 6.99. Im not sure were you send it but I would imagine it would have the labs were you could send it somewhere in or on the packaging for the test.

[Tzunu un]

I wouldn't say there is no need to. In some ways, it couldn't hurt to be safe. It's just like getting any other new frog, you want them quarantined and get them tested to make sure they won't infect any of the other inhabitants in the enclosure.

Strider is correct here. Bd is widespread, can infect American toads, can be asymptomatic in some species/populations. This makes it a concern for introducing any new animals into a collection or if breeding.

Here is some info:

great overview in practical and layman terms (mentions presence in American toads):
http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/portals/...ts/chytrid.pdf

https://chytridcrisis.wordpress.com/...dendrobatidis/

http://www.amphibiaweb.org/chytrid/c...iomycosis.html


Before you take the toad to the vet (saving costs) you could test for Bd yourself using the kit from Josh's Frogs, Genesis Exotics, or similar. The test involves swabbing the animal with a sterile swab and then sending the sample to a test lab (PCR test).

http://www.joshsfrogs.com/amphibian-...-test-kit.html
https://www.genesisexotics.com/herp-health.html

The testing in these kits is usually both for Bd and ranavirus and both kits have you send it to Research Associates Lab. The cost of each test is $18 additional so total cost is kit + shipping + test fees. You can also send your own samples (not buy the kit) if you have sterile swabs and gloves and download the sample submission form from Research Associates Lab (use the reptile one) One swab is needed for each test requested.
http://www.vetdna.com/application/fo...issionform.pdf

Josh's Frogs has a You Tube video demonstrating how to use the swabs to get samples for testing, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L4DYlcxOYo

If you have multiple animals in one enclosure to test then you can just swab a couple of the animals in the enclosure with the swab. All animals in the enclosure with have Bd if present.


Treatment for Bd varies depending on the animal and it's tolerances. The most popular are heat treatment (for heat tolerant species), or itraconazole (requires prescription from vet) baths. Instead of using itraconazole , others have used over the counter Lamisil Foot Spray (Terbinafine) baths.

see:
http://www.theaquariumwiki.com/Chytrid_fungus

and the other references I gave above describing treatment and hygiene practices during testing/treatment to prevent spread/reinfection.


Dr. David Frye is a vet in the midwest that specializes in frogs/amphibians. I've never used him but he apparently will answer emails and I think that he may also write or order prescriptions that can be sent to your local vet / picked up there even if you don't live in MI.
Here is his info:
http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/ven...al-fecals.html


Testing fecals is the second type of test that you should run and will test for parasites.
http://www.doylesdartden.com/AGD_31.html
Treatment is usually with fenbendazole (Panacur®) or ivermectin (Ivomec®)


I hope that this helps you make up your mind and decide your plans. I wouldn't risk infecting other captive animals with WC specimens by not testing/treating.

[Dace]

I get the impression that Deku doesn't have any other amphibians yet. (Not sure if that's true of course.) But if you can really get a chytrid test for 7 bucks it certainly couldn't hurt.

[Tzunu un]

Need to clarify that the Josh's Frogs and Genesis Exotics test kit DO NOT include shipping and testing fee....they are merely the gloves, swabs, mailing envelope, form, directions.

The total cost of Bd testing at Research Associates Lab using these kits would be kit + shipping + test fees.

As an estimate, this would be approximately $7 for kit + $6 for USPS Priority flat rate envelope shipping + $18 for Bd test only (no Rana testing)......so approximately around the $31 mark.

You can bring this down to the approximately $24 mark if you use your own supplies rather than the kit.

[monster]

I was wondering were the $18 dollars came from. L.O.L I was thinking I was just on there and it said $6.99. I was wondering if I was going crazy or something.

[Deku]

I wouldn't say there is no need to. In some ways, it couldn't hurt to be safe. It's just like getting any other new frog, you want them quarantined and get them tested to make sure they won't infect any of the other inhabitants in the enclosure.

that's what i want to do... though im not sure if they will charge per animal.... i may have a heart attack if so...