Red eyed tree frog pale skin

[jasonm96]

Btw, I'd recommend a 5% UVB for this species, as I'd imagine you'd be using a 2% for the plants, however this doesn't provide any usable UVB as mesh halves the output. I don't think the 5% will do anything for the plants but the LED light might be enough. I'd be extra careful with a 55W heat lamp, usually a set up that size would only need around 25W.

[Blueline1941]

thanks for the info! I have only had the light on a few times when it is cold out, i keep my home around 19-20 Celcius so the tank stays pretty decent. The UVB is a 5.0 Exo Terra that is about 6 months old, I changed it out for a new one for my Veiled Chameleon so i put the old one in here, do you think that would be okay?
I did not QT them, I had them in the tank before i bought the plants.
A person on a facebook group suggested that he may have a parasite since he had a prolapse and one runny stool. They suggested a type of worm medication once a week dusted on crickets. I may QT them and see what their stool looks like for a few days, however the color has since gone away and i am wondering if it had something to do with him sheding at the time.

Thanks for the help

[jasonm96]

No problem.

UVB bulbs lose most of their output within about 6 months, some claim to last for a year. So I'd get a new one if you're using an old one. I'd go for Zoo Med or Arcadia personally, they're products are of decent quality from Europe.

I've just noticed you said you've had them only for a week. I think you may as well just leave them in the tank unless problems do occur, so not to stress them. Watch out for watery faeces to see if they continue as this is a bad sign. You usually will be able to see them clear enough without quarantining, they'll generally poo on the plants or side glass. Probably was just shedding or needing to settle in. The tree frogs I currently have, Hyla Cinerea, change colour all the time.

I wouldn't treat any frogs unless absolutely necessary, recommended by a vet that has experience with frogs and has the book amphibian medicine and captive husbandry by wright and whitaker on hand. As long as your frogs are captive bred they should be clean.

[Diver]

Do you know the origin of the frogs? It's important to not buy wild caught, only ever buy captive bred.

As Jason said, UVB 5% is a must, as is calcium and vitamin supplements along with a varied gut-loaded diet. Prolapse is one of the the symptoms of calcium/d3 deficiency.

If your humidity is up around 80%+ it's too wet. Aim for 60-70%. Wetness will encourage bacterial infection, probably the biggest cause of death in RETFs from people reading some of the outdated and nonsense caresheets that are around. That said, from your photos it doesn't LOOK wet (no water droplets streaming down the sides), how are you measuring?

[Blueline1941]

I don't know the origin, I did however turn down wild caught frogs before i bought these ones. They came from Pets Unlimited, which I don't believe use wild caught suppliers but they didn't know for sure. I have been dusting the crickets every feeding with calcium and reptile vitamins, and calcium with d3 once a week. I have been feeding them crickets under 1/2 inch.
I have one of the exo terra rotary hydrometer which was reading 80%, but I used a handheld meter with a wand probe that we use for measuring relative humidity in our rink and it was reading 75% at 75 degrees. I have been trying to keep the tank in that range, however it seems to be rising on its own, I may have to move the tank as it is beside my Veiled Chameleon tank which has a mister on for 1 minute every 1.5 hours. SO perhaps some of the humidity is floating over from her tank.
I stopped misting the tank other than watering the plant leaves once a day.

I did find 2 solid poops when I cleaned the tank out yesterday (removed all the fake plants and washed them) one looked alittle grey the other was much darker so I believe they were from both frogs.

The frog i am worried about also got into the calcium powder in the cricket dish a few times (i have since made sure no dust is in the cup now) could that have hurt his skin?

thanks

[jasonm96]

Shocking that they don't know for sure. Good pet shops should know about their animals and ideally breed them themselves, something I'd like to see more of.

I'd watch with the supplements, not to over do them. Most standard supplements if you use every feed with tree frogs might harm them, once a week for adults or twice for subs should do. I use Repashy's Calcium Plus LoD for my Greens everytime and have had good results but this is more balanced out so it can be used every feed.

Just cut down on the misting if it's going to high but these hygrometers can be really inaccurate in my experience and your eyes might be your best bet. As long as the tank doesn't look wet then you should be fine, with most frogs keep them moist but not soaking wet.

I'm not sure if that will cause issues but I'd say you're just overthinking things and I'm the same at first but after a month you'll start to relax. I'd recommend AVS popular tree frogs if you're interested in a good read about this species.