Looking for new frog/frogs

[Larry Wardog]

Where are your sources that they do travel?

i've never seen a study concerning the movements of frogs and toads except during breeding migrations. Those were personal observations, along with other observations from other people and a few books.

I'm not saying enclosure size doesn't matter, I'm just saying that I (and many other people) have kept adult grays in ten gallon vivariums with virtually no problems. If you want to project yourself onto a frog (which is, frankly, an unintelligent and extremely apathetic animal) and give it a super sized enclosure so it will be "happier", go ahead but don't try to discourage other people from keeping them by pushing your unfounded opinion.

As a grey owner, I would not recommend a 10 gallon for anything other than a hospital tank. As Jason said, there are other signs than just trying to escape. I started with my first grey in a 10 gallon, I recognized quickly that it wasn't enough space. These frogs are very active at night and need space to move and exercise. When I had one housed alone, I had him in a 20g high.

So many care sheets I've read suggest the very minimum size of tank for any animal. When buying larger tanks than suggested, you're actually doing yourself a favour as well as the animal, as the substrate doesn't spoil so quickly and as a result, a complete tank clean out doesn't have to be so frequent. An animal could show stress with irregular activity for the animal, snout abrasions, going off food, decline in health, etc.

Even though they're small, gray tree frogs as I'm sure you know jump long distances and are very active at night. They will be very limited in a 10-gallon, sure you can keep one in there but for a little bit of extra money you can make the life of the animal so much better. Some books I've read have recommended a 10-gallon, whereas others it's been at least 20-gallons. I keep 2 green tree frogs in a 20-gallon and I wouldn't put them in anything smaller but it will come down to the keeper in the end.

This is people on your own thread that disagree with you




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