Question about humidity and temps

[jasonm96]

I can tell you straight away that you're not getting an accurate temperature reading from that gauge. heat mats don't heat the air significantly and heat the substrate and animal instead. put a digital thermometer with the probe under the substrate on the heat mat and you'll see that a heat mat full blast will reach a very hot temperature, so make sure it's on a stat.

[Shakudo]

I can tell you straight away that you're not getting an accurate temperature reading from that gauge. heat mats don't heat the air significantly and heat the substrate and animal instead. put a digital thermometer with the probe under the substrate on the heat mat and you'll see that a heat mat full blast will reach a very hot temperature, so make sure it's on a stat.

I'll look into that. Thanks.


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[jasonm96]

I think you'll find that will be the problem, I was in the same situation If you're using a heat lamp as well i'd take it out and put an exo terra natural light or 2.0, it doesn't produce enough UVB to be of any use but will provide a day and night cycle and make it easier to view the frog a heat source on the bottom and one on the top isn't good, means the frog can't escape the heat

[Shakudo]

I think you'll find that will be the problem, I was in the same situation If you're using a heat lamp as well i'd take it out and put an exo terra natural light or 2.0, it doesn't produce enough UVB to be of any use but will provide a day and night cycle and make it easier to view the frog a heat source on the bottom and one on the top isn't good, means the frog can't escape the heat

I actually felt the heat mat myself, as well as the glass and I tested it with full substrate in it and felt the bottom of the substrate and honestly... It doesn't become very warm at all, its 7 watts....

My frog doesn't need any UVB, although a little can be beneficial. But I chose not to use one because of the small distance between the light and the ground. UVB rays can be harmful if there is not enough distance between the source and the ground. Learned that when I was studying about my Russian tortoise.

The heat mat is very small and only covers about a third of the tank, the right side has no mat under it. There are also 2 hides one on the warm side and one on the cool side. So my frog can choose where to sit.

The heat mat alone doesn't produce enough warmth by itself so I'll have to keep using the lamp.

I can remove the heat mat but I am afraid it will get too cold at night here so I think I'll try to cut the plexiglass first.

I don't want it to get to cold for my frog.

I added a picture of the lamp so you can see.
It's a really safe lamp to use imo for an amphibian.





I don't know if you can tell but I put the plexiglass back on it this afternoon and its now 26 degrees Celsius. That's 2 degrees up. It normally is 24 degrees. On one site they say 24 degrees is fine on the other site they say it should be 25 to 28 degrees. Hence my confusion..... There are many sites and many opinions.....






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[jasonm96]

Our body temperature is a lot warmer than the mat will be you can't tell by touching it. Heat mats all get up to around the same temperature, no matter how low or high the wattage is, higher wattage heat mats just tell you that it's bigger and therefore need more electricity to power it. However, some small heat mats with higher wattage than the normal ones are designed to get hotter. Trust me, if you put a digital thermometer on that mat you'll be shocked and if not then there's something wrong with the mat itself. I wasn't suggesting that it did, it's just in case you'd think that you wouldn't need d3 in your supplements but you would as they lamps aren't UVB ones. I'm also sure those canopies weren't designed for that heat lamp but the flat long ones and no higher than 25watts. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about, I've been in your situation and had many trial and errors

[Shakudo]

Our body temperature is a lot warmer than the mat will be you can't tell by touching it. Heat mats all get up to around the same temperature, no matter how low or high the wattage is, higher wattage heat mats just tell you that it's bigger and therefore need more electricity to power it. However, some small heat mats with higher wattage than the normal ones are designed to get hotter. Trust me, if you put a digital thermometer on that mat you'll be shocked and if not then there's something wrong with the mat itself. I wasn't suggesting that it did, it's just in case you'd think that you wouldn't need d3 in your supplements but you would. I'm also sure those canopies weren't designed for that heat lamp but the flat long ones and no higher than 25watts. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about, I've been in your situation and had many trial and errors

Thanks,

I am looking for a temp gun. I heard they were the most accurate you can use.
The lamp is 25 watts, by the way. I made sure of that.

I give reptivite multi vitamin, it has everything.
I use it for everybody here.


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[jasonm96]

If it's a spot lamp the beam might melt the canopy, the ones designed for the canopy aren't spot lamps and don't direct the heat. They won't be useful in this situation as you want to measure the temperature below the substrate level, on the glass where the heat mat is attached to