Ah c'mon, whats wrong with Pacman frogs? I love my chunkers, wouldn't trade them for anything. L.O.L And some of the colours and patterns are just gorgeous. But ya out of all seriousness if you want a planted viv your right this isn't the frog/toad for you. They will just steamroll plants or dig them by burrowing under them or sometimes they will get leaves from plants in there mouth trying catch food. And I was just jokeing with you at the start.