Came Home With These

[BigBruiserAl]

Some more pics to try cheer me up

Notice their colours on the 1st pic(taken an hour after purchase) with the later ones their coulors look much brighter i took this as a good thing?



What a life this is how they spen their day


Bit love the waterfall


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[Chaya]

they look quite happy. And yes, i have come to discover with ulu's that the brighter colors normaly happen because they are more active and happy . They still look of a good weight so dont fear...

They seem to be quite content in their new house!

[BigBruiserAl]

Thanks for your support jess. My son runs in every morning now goes right to the tank "hawow oggys".....hope they make it were all getting attached. Got some springtails cultures on order that ill pop in they can snack on them with some luck as well.

[Chaya]

awww! boys always love frogs! lol, I hope they turn into a thriving little culture they are gorgeous frogs and are definitely unique! you must keep us updated on them

[BigBruiserAl]

Ok i lowered the temp to 26c day 22c night. Another person who i spoke to was able to breed them in tank and uses 40% humidity. I have moved my fogger into the Dendrobates leucomelas tank and will try to mantain 50%.

I caught the male(bit) in the cricket bowl just now and i was missing 2 crickets....i found 1 in the tank but no sign of the other cricket, lets hope bit eat it

Rib(female) has been in the same spot bottom corner of the tank for 24hrs now, just checked on her and she has burried herself in damp Sphagnum Moss

[Chaya]

the females seem to enjoy burying themselves a little... the hardest thing being, if she lays eggs ever, she will bury them lol. That shall be an interesting event if it ever happens . I hope they do well, they seem quite happy. and i am glad you gave them a good home

[IgbyKibbits]

Al -

Keep the updates coming. I wish you the best of luck with the feeding. They look like wonderful additions to have to the home - and certainly a great "welcome home dad" addition ; )

[BigBruiserAl]

OK guys im panicing here. The female who has not eaten since sat has burried herself in moss for the last 35 odd hours came out and stuck to the glass shes FAT! and inside her in her midsection i can see approx 6 white balls no bigger then say a 6mm BB gun pellet. Looks like shes pregnant then ? or some sort of common froggie diease? I am so not the right person for this after a week of ownership

[Kurt]

Put them in a rain chamber and see what happens.

[Chaya]

she is probably filled with eggs. Mine didnt eat when i first got her cause she was ffilled with eggs. Never know. try the rain chamber and see if you get something going keep us updated

[ngriffin2009]

They are beautiful!

[daziladi]

Can't wait to hear how it goes! Good luck with the rain chamber.

[BigBruiserAl]

Going to have to give the rain chamber idea a miss i have no room for any more tanks and the main tank would be destoyed

[redeemedsoul136]

How's Rib and Bit doing?

[BigBruiserAl]

How's Rib and Bit doing?

Hi

very much the same. Think i have had them for 10 days and they do sleep in the same place evey day now so maybe there getting used to the tank. Still having the feeding problem i think between them they have had 4-5 medium sized gut loaded crickets between them. Not really sure what to do with these two, looking back is was a mistake for a amature like me to get such a fragile tree frogs

[Chaya]

i got my first one on impulse too, but she did really well. It was my second grouping that had problems. I still hand feed the buggers and i still love their big bright eyes... Keep enjoying them and dont worry that you arnt prepared, they sound to be doing ok I think ur son would kill you if u tried taking them back lol

[BigBruiserAl]

i got my first one on impulse too, but she did really well. It was my second grouping that had problems. I still hand feed the buggers and i still love their big bright eyes... Keep enjoying them and dont worry that you arnt prepared, they sound to be doing ok I think ur son would kill you if u tried taking them back lol

I did all the reasearch on whites and the tank was mature, but the store said "oh there not too diff to white's" hmmm!!
When do you think i should resort to hand feeding? how do you go about it?
Im not giving up on them yet spoke to a uk memeber who has them with no lights and room temp no heat mat, so im changing the bulbs to 15w night time glow and temps are set at 24c day 19 c night. Will see how we do, if anything it will help another person using the search on the frogs

[Chaya]

Honestly? I resorted to hand feeding when the frogs were so skinny that they barely moved when i picked them up. At first i thought i was too late but then she jumped out of my hands. The ulu's hipbones are high up on their back and when she slept they were really protruded so i knew i had to do something.

If you do try to forcefeed be careful.

I first tried tweezer feeding with a wriggling cricket and the frogs pretty much said no and shoved it away. So now i have my boyfriend get a bowl of frog safe water and a drivers license (a blockbuster card works if the frog is smaller cause it is thinner but i dont like it for my bigger girl and make sure u rinse the card in the frog water) He cleans his hands with frog safe water (not the bowl of frog safe water) and holds her gently in his hand with his thumb softly on top of her head and then i get the card in my dominant hand (right) and if she isnt crazy skinny a waxworm or cricket in a pair of tweezers or just in my fingertips of the other hand and gently slide the card in her mouth and turn the card slightly so that her mouth is open (sometimes you have to wiggle the card a little cause they will clench their jaw shut! lol)...then just slide the food in and pull the card out. She normally jumps at that point and then swallows happily. And then ends up on the floor...which is why you have the bowl of water! give her a little rinse (if you can use warmish water its better...not hot) Depending on size depends on how much they will eat...and sometimes they try spit it out.

I have recently started trying reptaid at the beginning of the hand-feeding and then wax worms since they are fattier and she needs the food and i normaly dip every third worm in vitamins/calcium. The biggest girl eats about 3-4 waxworms and reptaid and the smaller girl eats 2-3 and reptaid...the boy who is maybe an inch is hard as hell to feed like that...i think he may actually be eating so i leave him alone

Just be sure to be gentle as their eyes are in the top of their head and u can see them inside their mouth.

[Chaya]

I will try and get a photo of her tonight, as i believe i need to feed her today...crickets havnt really disappeared...

[Chaya]

ok fair warning...phone photos so they arnt great and are probably fuzzy. I tried to get a few photos so you could see from multiple angles... the last photo is my little boy who seems to eat











And here is my little boy



Se how big her bones are and how skinny? that is when u know its food time!