Help!!!!

[BillyV24]

So last night I noticed my RETF was just staying in one place not moving not be active. Woke up this morning with him laying on the ground barley moving!! I think he might be dying I need help!! I don't know what to do! Kept tank at 75-80 degrees and 70% humitity!

[LilyPad]

I'm sorry your frog is not feeling well If you could copy/paste and answer the questions below, that would help us help you. You can add a photo using a photo hosting service like photobucket, or you could email it to me and I could post it for you.

- try to answer as many questions as possible.
- if you do not know an answer to a question say "I don't know" rather than leaving it blank.

QUESTIONS

1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species)
2----please include a photo of the frog
3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure
4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" )
5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? )
6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate
7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined
8----what is the typical humidity level
9----what temperature is maintained
10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically)
12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc)
13---what kind of water is used
-----for misting
-----for the frog's soaking dish
-----is de-chlorinator used / what brand
14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific
15---enclosure set up:
-----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned
-----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric
-----describe wood, bark , and background materials
16---when is the last time the frog ate
17---have you found poop lately
18---how often is the frog fed
19---what size feeder is given
20---what other feeders are used as treats
21---what is the frog's main food source
22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed
23---vitamins - what brand and how often
24---calcium - what brand and how often
25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time
26---approximate age of the frog
27---how long have you owned the frog
28---who cared for the frog before you
29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred
30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves)
31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no)
-----for how long
32---has the frog been treated with any medication:
-----for what
-----name of medication
-----for how long
-----what dose
-----was medication prescribed by a herp vet

[BillyV24]

1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species)
RETF
2----please include a photo of the frog
3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure
4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" )
18x18x18
5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? )
just him
6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate
no

7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined
no
8----what is the typical humidity level
70-75
9----what temperature is maintained
75-80 day 70-75 night
10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
exo terra thermometer
11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically)
12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc)
Change water daily, spot clean daily, try to clean tank every 1-2 weeks
13---what kind of water is used
-----for misting
distilled
-----for the frog's soaking dish
De chlorinated
-----is de-chlorinator used / what brand
not sure got it from Josh's Frogs
14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific
Jungle mix
15---enclosure set up:
-----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned
-----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric
live plants
-----describe wood, bark , and background materials
Big piece of GrapeWood background is the one that came with the tank
16---when is the last time the frog ate
Sunday Night
17---have you found poop lately
Yes
18---how often is the frog fed
Every two days then no feeding then 2 days ect.
19---what size feeder is given
3/8 inch
20---what other feeders are used as treats
none
21---what is the frog's main food source
crickets
22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed
Bowl fed
23---vitamins - what brand and how often
Rep-Cal
24---calcium - what brand and how often
Rep-Cal about 4 times a week
25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time
no
26---approximate age of the frog
3-4 months
27---how long have you owned the frog
almost 3 months
28---who cared for the frog before you
bought him from Josh's Frogs
29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred
CB
30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves)
only to clean and yes gloves
31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
low
30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no)
yes
-----for how long
30 days
32---has the frog been treated with any medication:
No
-----for what
-----name of medication
-----for how long
-----what dose
-----was medication prescribed by a herp vet

[BillyV24]

He just stays on the ground and not sleeping!

[LilyPad]

I do not see any big errors in your care. Do you have a picture? Sometimes that is truly worth a thousand words.

[BillyV24]

This was him this morning


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[LilyPad]

Oh, poor baby is not looking good at all. I would get him into a hospital tank and out of that substrate. Maybe give him a shallow bath in dechlorinated water to rinse some of it off and be able to do a more detailed inspection of him. Is he bloated at all? Is there any chance he ingested some of that bark?

[BillyV24]

No his weight seems fine and I don't think so I always bowl feed

[LilyPad]

Did he burrow himself in the substrate at all? What are you using to measure humidity? Full screen top? Your temp range is pretty big, but I don't think that would be the cause of his illness. I keep mine between 75 and 80...lower end at night, higher end during the day.

[BillyV24]

I use the exo terra combo digital thermometer/hydrometer full screen it's an exo terra 18x18x18. I just checked him he's still on the ground near water bowl. His stomach looks a little flat if that makes any sense. He has one eye open and one closed! I feel so bad he was fine last night I don't know what's wrong!

[FantaTizer]

I agree that your care all seems fine, there is nothing obvious wrong with his care. But I would definitely suggest putting him into a hospital tank as LilyPad said and then you can make sure he is as clean as possible. I hope your RETF gets better soon, frogs are such delicate things sometimes

from Hannah

[BillyV24]

He's not even opening his eyes! Very very lethargic! Not sure he'll make it through the night, very upset!

[Krispy]

Is the poor fella able to move about at all? Like his head is conatantly cocked down and dragging? Better yet... has it had any kind of seizure like behavior?

[BillyV24]

He moves a little but stays on the ground, no seizure behavior, able to keep his head up. He does a lot of this yawning type thing and it's not him shedding I know what that looks like so I'm confused!

[LilyPad]

Have you moved him to a hospital tank? It can be as simple as a large kritter keeper with damn, unprinted, paper towel, a water dish, and a branch in case he were to choose to utilize it. Getting him cleaned off and in a spot better able to observe him would be a great idea.

[BillyV24]

Yea I did, he still very lethargic not moving much and he has trouble opening one eye!

[LilyPad]

Would you be willing to take him to a vet? He may have some sort of bacterial infection that we're not able to diagnose on here

[Wbarnes8723]

Is he still with us? I hate he is going through that and hopes he gets better soon

[BillyV24]

Yes, I'm trying to make a vet appointment right now.

[BillyV24]

So no vet around here specializes in amphibians so I called my local pet store who are really good and one guy specializes in amphibians and he said it's an bacterial infection and they have some medication that i apply to his skin and he said that should help!