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    Default Re: The treatment of MBD

    If he is feeling squishy with a liquid feeling, I would be a bit concerned that he may have edema and should be examined by a herp vet.

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    If he is feeling squishy with a liquid feeling, I would be a bit concerned that he may have edema and should be examined by a herp vet.
    It's not so much liquid feeling as just a bit baggy, if that makes sense? It doesn't feel like he's filled with water, it just looks a bit like it, although that was prior to him shedding... maybe it wassomething to do with that? I might take him for a check up regardless, just to put my mind at ease, I was going to anyway but because it's an hour away I wasn't sure if it would stress him out more than necessary.

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    A good checkup is always a good thing, if he doesn't seem sick wait until he is well settled in because that will be a stressful day for him and it would be beneficial for him to have a familiar and safe feeling environment to come back to. They always do feel very squishy just before they molt, mine all puff themselves up really big for a few minutes, then deflate and peel off their old top layer of skin they just stretched loose.

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    Hi, im thinking if he is only about 2 inches he still isn't very old. If it just feels soft and he is eating good im almost thinking maybe it just feels soft because it isn't fully developed yet. Maybe that's all it is, my baby ornate that's about 1 1/4 inches give or take at the moment when he grabs on to the tongs its nothing to crazy or force full. Its kinda of a soft bite to be honest and I know 100% my little dude doesn't have mbd. I could be wrong so don't take my word on it but you would think if hes still growing his bones would be abit softer then a juvenile or adult. Im editing this, but I forgot to mention that from the pictures you have posted IMO his mouth seems to look fine. But again im not a vet and if you think something isn't right I would agree with TheVacantFace that checkup never hurts any. Oh and the part when I said I could be wrong I didn't mean that I could be wrong about my guy haveing MBD, it was regarding the development part.
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    Could well be! I honestly can't remember how my others looked when they were his size, they may have been the same. I worry a lot, so it could just be my mind running away with things because I know he's not had the best start in life. I think i'll give him a few weeks to settle and then take him for a check up just to be on the safe side. I'll keep a close eye for any swelling up in case it is edema too and take him straight to the vets. He does seem well in himself though, I mean, he seems alright. The fact that he's eating whereas he wasn't in his old home looks promising anyway fingers crossed im just worrying about nothing! I seem to do that quite often.

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    I don't see anything off with the mouth... Can't really see the hips well enough to tell if something is going on there or not.

    As for the possible edema, keep an eye on it. He doesn't look like anything is wrong in those pictures, but fluid can build up quickly. Usually with edema you'll notice them looking visibly bloated and sometimes even fluid buildup on the hind legs (that's much easier to notice since that area doesn't hold a whole lot of water normally).
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    He looks ok this morning, I think I just saw his floppy jaw while he was eating, panicked and my mind just ran away with worst case scenarios! I'm still going to keep a close eye on him, I understand that sand harbors bacteria quite well? I've no idea how often, if at all, he was cleaned out, so a bit worried maybe that's got something to do with it. But so far no swelling at all and his skin looks healthier.

    Other than slightly uneven hips and his weak jaw he does seem ok, im hopeful that just correct care is all he needs. thanks for all the help and reassurance!

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    Sand is kind of a bacteria magnet, but if a frog has an infection you're probably going to see symptoms like listlessness, strange looking poop/prolapse, and refusing food. As long as you don't see any of that you probably don't have to worry about any bacterial issues now that he's off the sand.
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