Housing other frogs with a leopard frog

[Larry Wardog]

A minimum tank for a leopard frog is 20 gallons, that's why I said a 29 or 30. They do not make 30 gallons as much as 29, idk why. Why would you want to cramp them together anyway? If one frog has something wrong with it, you risk more with a smaller tank. And imo it reduces the lifespan or the frog or frogs. You haven't seen care sheets tell you to mix frogs with Leopards either. Green Frogs will eat Leos and so will Bullfrogs. They will eat most native tree frogs as well. I think the size rule goes with the species and with adulthood for Amphibs. An adult of either wood or Leo would not consume another adult of the other species. If you want real proof, my only example would be to frighten a toad until white foam comes out of it and put it with the leopard frog. If it dies then there is proof. I know a lot about the wild also as my Vivarium is one of the most natural you will find. There are insects in there that came from the leaf litter from the woods. It's not as different as you think. Animals need there space and need to be provided with what niches they need. From what I believe, if the frog doesn't eat the other one quickly, and the secretions come out as a defense then the frog will die. A pickerel frog is very poisonous. Live read on care sheets not to house them with anything because of how they pollute the water in the tank. I think if you have the feces examined and get it checked out by a local exotic vet, it should be ok to put in if you get all the go aheads. For feeding you must make sure each animal eats. I used to put in 8 crickets, 4 for one frog and 4 for the other. You may have to put them in different containers. Hope this helps

Each species has very different behavior. A leopard frog would bully smaller frogs like wood frogs and be bullied by larger frogs like bullfrogs and green frogs. It doesn't matter if you feed them in separate containers, they will still cause stress for each other. It isn't really the fact that the frogs can eat each other as the fact that the frogs think they can. If you must get another frog, I would strongly advise on getting another leopard frog and upgrading the tank size. The new frog should be quarantined for at least a month and a fecal test should be performed. Furthermore, the frogs should not have a size different more than a quarter of their nose to vent length.

I can guarantee you that even in tanks run by the most experienced people, mixed species tanks will not yield the same long lifespan as same species tanks would

We have a difference of opinion on that one. If the person cannot provide care and have an environment for both species your correct. However that's not everyone. I certainly make sure my animals are taken care of. I have a thread going from April showing the progress. I'm willing to go all out for my frogs and toads. So if they die it will be in a long time. They are healthy. What if my animals would live longer than yours would? That would be pretty interesting


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[Mr Leopard]

Thanks for making things clearer in my mind with regards to whether or not the second frog could be of a different species if it's going to be in the same terrarium (no, for now at least).

Space is one of the main reasons I said captivity and life in the wild were different ball games (others include things like variation gradients in the environment). You can find several species of frogs even within two feet of one another, but they're not stuck together forever. The same goes for multiple frogs of the same species.

I'm guessing success with multiple species tanks depends on the species, the owner's care, the set up and the individual (leopards are notoriously skittish, but mine seems to have gotten used to me enough not to care much about hiding from me no matter what I do... unless I really [accidentally] scare the **** out of it). I'm actually scared this could change with the introduction of a new frog.

Just to clarify, I do not dispute the idea that toads have toxins, just the idea that all frogs do (or enough of them to make a generalization).

Do you guys have any suggestions regarding water management? What's the fastest way / set up you've found for the water changes. I have enough other animals to take care of that streamlining the water changes for my frog(s) would make a difference in deciding whether or not to house the frogs together. The same goes with the rest of terrarium care, if you have any tips.