The giant waxy frog is for very experienced frog keepers from what I understand. Even though there is CB ones Im pretty sure a majority of them are WC. The smaller waxy frog im not sure how hard they are to keep. And im not saying either of you are not experienced enough because I don't know that just wanted to point out they are not easy, and its not easy to get them settled into a new environment, and for the giants you need a huge enclosure. There is a thread on here from a person with the user name diver about giant waxys you may want to check out before diving into the giants, she had a lot problems and a few of them passed. If you do end up getting them in the future I would make sure its a very good breeder with a very good reputation. I will have to agree with both of you that these guys both species of this frog are just amazing and beautiful.