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    Default PetSmart a little outdated on Pacman info

    I was looking around for something else and stumbled on a pacman online care sheet at PetSmart. Probably nothing new to you guys.
    http://www.petsmart.ca/live-pet/live...pfm%3Dcategory


    But they suggest here under tank heating cause of over head drying. They are also suggesting to feed it other frogs! And that they are from Florida

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    Really? Florida? Just...why

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    The best thing to do when you come across things like that is to email corporate and let them know. You can also direct them to updated care sheets.
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    Ya there care guide isn't to great, I have been argueing with the store here about it and have called corporate but nothing is ever done. They have 2 here were I live and they are takeing a long time to sell so they decided to take them out of there critterkeepers and put them on display in ten gallon tanks with no heating, nothing covering any of the sides so they can see out everywhere they look, and there is just the screen top so all the humidity escapes. And they have them were if you are in the reptile department you will have to walk by them. I told the manager of that department that isn't good for them to be exposed like that because it really stresses them out and that the stress is very bad and she just pretty much looked at me like ok whatever. I then told her that they should have some kind of supplemental heating being cold for too long can lead to edema and other things, and her response was that they don't need the heat they can be housed at room temp of 75f. They have care guide booklet for pixie frogs and when I asked when they will get some the same the manager told me never, that they haven't carried them for years. Then why is the careguide still there and if you look on their website they still have pixies advertised for sale. Good old petsmart.

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    Far as I'm concerned with under tank heaters is that Philippe de Vosjoli, one of the first to breed pacman frogs and other books suggest it as a method. As long as you put it on a thermostat and the probe is directly ontop of the heat mat under the substrate i doubt it will get hot enough to cause burns. I can see why peoole don't recommend them though, because frogs burrow to keep cool but the mat should only cover half of the floor anyway. Frogs aren't stupid, I'm sure they're aware where the heat is coming from.

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    My biggest concern for the uth is that it messes with them cooling down. And when underneath if you don't have some kind of automated mister you will be doing a lot of hand misting because it dries out the substrate, and if your not misting enough if his substrate dries to much he could dehydrate. That's personally why I put mine on the side, and the thing about them not being stupid they know were the heat is comeing from, a frog regulates his body temp to help with heat. the best way to explain this is go to youtube and look up boiling frog, and no the frog at the end isn't a real frog. But when you watch he puts a whites tree frog in pot of water on the stove and slowly turns the heat up, instead of the frog jumping out he just stays there because his body temp is changing to help him with stand the heat. because he is built to do this he doesn't even realize how hot it is actually getting and eventually he dies from boiling water because he doesn't know any better. Again the end is not a real frog, and I don't know 100% if pacmans would work the same way but if so that's how I believe It would end up getting burned. It wouldn't be an instant burn or scald, he would sit on top of it to long I believe and eventually would maybe get the burn, or some sort of serious heat rash. And im not saying he is stupid because its just a natural thing they do. I don't know if I explained that properly but if you watch or have watched the video he explains it a lot better.

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